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Old 30 Nov 2007   #21
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They are +50 TM of the original TM.

i.e. Volley Kick, TM 41 Cat, TM 91 Duke
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Old 30 Nov 2007   #22
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Super Hips
Requires TM level 55 and Dodge Master level 10.
This is definately a skill you'll wanna get. I once considered going
Diva (hybrid) at third job just so I could learn this skill. It only
works when Dodge Master is in effect, but it allows you to dodge
ALL critical hits dealt to you from monsters within a certain level
range. Unfortunately, I forget what range that is, so I'll need help
with that one.
It's if the monsters are 100 levels apart from you! :3
Hope it helps! ;D
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Old 1 Dec 2007   #23
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Thanks for the help, you two. I posted the corrections and info into the guide and cited you as sources at the top.
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Old 9 Jan 2008   #24
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Thought I'd correct you on some things:
2nd job Coon is called Cardmaster, not Magician.
The skill is Metamorphosis, not Mutation.
High Kick is not High Kick. It's Volley Kick.
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Old 9 Jan 2008   #25
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Originally Posted by Akoro View Post
Thought I'd correct you on some things:
The skill is Metamorphosis, not Mutation.
High Kick is not High Kick. It's Volley Kick.
Thought I'd point out your fail on some things:
The skill Metamorphosis was Mutation pre-Full Trickster. That was the "rough" translation. So for us closed/open beta vets, it is, in fact, Mutation*. Same goes for High Kick. Thanks a lot for stopping by. It was a pleasure learning you some stuffz.

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Old 9 Jan 2008   #26
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-sl- Thanks Apathy. I prefer to use the original names for alot of skills. Especially High Kick. Volley Kick just doesn't sound as cool. And, as for the Magician/Cardmaster thing, when I wrote that part of guide, the mytrickster wiki called Cardmasters Magicians. I always assumed it was the original name in JTO or something, considering how many magicians do card tricks and such.

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Old 9 Jan 2008   #27
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Last post, as to not hijack this guide...By the way, it's a good one too .

I also prefer most of the other skills names, like Hard Gravity>Gravity Crush, etc.
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Old 9 Jan 2008   #28
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Thanks Apathy! I appreciate your approval. I think Hard Gravity IS>Gravity Crush, too. But then again, if they'd just called it Dark Matter, it'd be like that awesome spell Magus uses in Chrono Trigger. But they probably can't do that.
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Old 8 Feb 2008   #29
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I just edited the HV and AP cats skill builds to include Sumo Suit instead of Charm Wink, 'cuz frankly, Skunk>Charm Wink. It's just a massive waste of TM and I got tired of getting 1-hit-KOed by power types and charm types in PVP and GVG, so I'm gonna get a skill reset set after the Poppuri event so I can delete MD Breaker, Magic Meltdown and Charm Wink to learn Sturdy Shield, Shield All and Sumo Suit. I'll probably get Fan Club next, after I've got enough TM, if I'm still interested in playing my pure AP primadonna after that.
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Old 8 Feb 2008   #30
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If you want any advice on leveling a Pure HP cat...*me*

Pure HP since level ONE!

EDIT:

Guide to Pure Hp Skills:

Skill Acquisition Order:
(Level - Skill (Level) / Current Points Used)

10 - Dodge master (master) / 12
20 - Magic Reflector (master) / 25
45 - Physical Training (master) / 38
51 - Volley Kick (Master) / 50
61 - Sturdy Shield (10) / 61
73 - Shield All (10) / 73
90 - Siren Song (Master) / 88
120 - Card Strike (10) / 99
120 - Super Hips (Acquired) / 104
120 - Bodyguard (Master) / 118
135 - Sumo Suit (Master) / 135
150 - Impelling Rage? (im not there yet myself)

NOTES: This build comes from a pure HP cat from level 1 not a changed once at level 200 so I'm exped at leveling this. 1st of all, you will be using whack till Volley Kick so get a decent Golden Sword and Lion Shield. By decent I mean at least 200% total. Ok after you get Volley Kick, you should be able to 1 hit some monsters even tho you are HP. Namely these are Snails in Path to swamp or Galli in Path to Phantom School. Only train on things you are strong enough to 1 hit. Your Gears should be all HV btw. Hp doesn't help training until 150 TM. Eventually you can move to Jokers/Arachne. Getting Siren Song is good because its Hp based and it makes training more interesting. Even though it probably won't 1 hit if you are wearing HV, it will probably 1 hit Crits. After you Change jobs only get level 10 card strike. This is because You have volley kick and To be honest, the cast time and cooldown of card strike just is NOT worth it. You CAN get Bodyguard if you want to GvG early or Skunk Pouch if you don't. Either way you still will make the cutoff points for Sumo Suit. Sumo Suit can be used to Help you train against magic type monsters w/o recasting Mana Reflector every 44 seconds. This is all I have to say so far. I am only 135 TM. More to come!

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Old 8 Feb 2008   #31
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I just added it in there with quotes and all. Thanks for the contribution, Kev.
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Old 8 Feb 2008   #32
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Hard Gravity owns Gravity Crush 'cause it abbreviates into HG. Cookies to anyone who finds the referrence.

Great guide!
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Old 16 Feb 2008   #33
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The HP Section seriously gave me a lot of insight about switching from DP to some other build.

Just wondering, what are you thoughts on an HP/AP Hybrid?
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Old 16 Feb 2008   #34
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Originally Posted by KuyaBaka View Post
The HP Section seriously gave me a lot of insight about switching from DP to some other build.

Just wondering, what are you thoughts on an HP/AP Hybrid?
That could be a pretty good idea, considering the fact pure AP is about as glass build as you can get with a charm type. Some HP could help and it couldn't hurt to have Concert Tour/Impelling Rage for mobbing, either.
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Old 16 Feb 2008   #35
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Might wanna alter my name as the link you provided leads to a dead end. (I'm Momiji~)
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Old 17 Feb 2008   #36
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That's odd. Will do!
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Old 17 Feb 2008   #37
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I don't mean to demean your AP build, but I would argue that a pure Hv does not do a little more damage with volley kick. They do alot more. Since damage is derived from both AP and hv in a matter than points are taken to be equal (4 levels=1 hv and 4 levels=16 ap. 1hv is counted the same as 16 ap for high kick) then when dodge master is added in that is an extra 45% hv. do the math there. same goes for 2 step, regardless that there is a completely ap based hit, the second is much more powerful and pure hv outdamages as well. I'm a pure hv level 161 and I hit a 16k base volley kick on the techi 4 monsters. However the Ap cats do get evolution, which is more than useful for coolems and great coolems. Although in fantasia where i am noone ever trains there >_< making ap cats less useful than HV cats in fantasia really.. Also Hv is a defensive stat as well as ofensive. I rarely carry hp pots anymore.

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