Equipment => Luck or MA?

[Lastier]

I browsed a bit through the Magic Type forum, but couldn't really find a satisfying answer to my problem.

I am lvl 81 dark dragon with a 1432 build and I currently ask myself, if I should focus on compounding luck or MA onto my equipment, when I have the choice to choose between both stats?

I have no problems hitting the monsters I train on atm with all 7 arrows of AR. I only miss with some of then, if I decide to kill monsters approx. twice my level for certain reasons (Quests, etc.). Should I go for MA, luck or a mix of both?

PS: Should I compound Luck or HP onto a Golden Mole Vest? >:

[karbonize]

HP into GMV defiantly...

I comp'd MA into my pluto set and every set for that matter that I could. I'll buy a LK set for lvl200 for PvP against mages, but pure ma for a dark dragon is the way to go. Also, I HIGHLY suggest resetting to a 1441 build b/c a pure dark lord 1441 = ownage in PvE and PvP in some cases.

By the time you're at tap1, you shouldn't need any LK equips b/c you SHOULD be hitting them all the time w/AR/lance/etc.

But I do highly suggest resetting your build to 1441, the power increase is godlike. Also, a 1441 needs HP equips, so try to get at least a 3k hp choc. shield, and a 1.4k hp gmv and a 1.7k pop. pendant. And then comp MA into every piece of equips you can. Refine your staff to as high as possible, etc. and you'll be set.



These are all my opinions, so please keep the bullshit about my posts to a minimum.

[Lex]

Comp HP onto your GMV. The potential 8 LK (10ish LK with white elixirs) just isn't worth it with all of this new LK gear out.

I'd say mix it up a bit, putting more focus on MA.

EDIT: You don't need to reset to 1441. That's not even worth anything. You don't get "stronger"...

[KawaiiSaka]

Yeah... HP onto a GMV is the best for magics @_@. Your 3 sense already gives you decent luck so I wouldn't really worry about luck. I'm 1414 and I worry about MA xD

Originally Posted by karbonize

But I do highly suggest resetting your build to 1441, the power increase is godlike. Also, a 1441 needs HP equips, so try to get at least a 3k hp choc. shield, and a 1.4k hp gmv and a 1.7k pop. pendant. And then comp MA into every piece of equips you can. Refine your staff to as high as possible, etc. and you'll be set.

Are those average HP gears? o_o

[karbonize]

**NOTE MY OPINION COMING** I said reset 1441 because to me, it seems to make you a TAD bit stronger. But I just like extreme builds.

continue on...

EDIT: @kawaiisaka: I think so, I found a ton of 1.7k hp pop. pendants durring the event for 10m, the 3k hp choc. shield might run a bit pricey, but I comp'd one myself and got a 2.99k hp shield which I used until I comp'd my pluto shield for 3.12k hp. My gmv is 1.4k hp w/exilirs I used. I think they're average or maybe slightly above for the shield/gmv?

[Lex]

Originally Posted by karbonize

**NOTE MY OPINION COMING** I said reset 1441 because to me, it seems to make you a TAD bit stronger. But I just like extreme builds.

continue on...

It doesn't. If you're hitting 100% (as I said in your other thread), and you're not using Ice Shard, then there is no damage change. I know it's your opinion... don't need to be told that.

[KawaiiSaka]

Resetting costs a lot .___.

1441 is still the same damage as 1432 but increased chance of crits.

[Lex]

And that also doesn't change. I've said this before... one of my sheep have twice as much LK than the other in full LK gear, and they have the same exact crit rate.

[KawaiiSaka]

Lol well I'm not sure if it changes that much... but maybe it's because I noticed a huge difference from resetting my 1441 to a 1414 >_>

[Senike]

If you often go to PvP, then Luck.
If you barley go to any bosses nor PvP, go for MA.
Though, if you don't have enough luck to hit a full-arrow rush on the certain monster you're killing, Luck.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by KawaiiSaka

Lol well I'm not sure if it changes that much... but maybe it's because I noticed a huge difference from resetting my 1441 to a 1414 >_>

It might be based off of a certain amount of LK, but I firmly believe that it caps out. My own 1414 is critting just as much as my... higher LK sheep. Granted, both of them have 200+, so I guess that doesn't help too much.

[LiLMewmew]

Originally Posted by Lex

It doesn't. If you're hitting 100% (as I said in your other thread), and you're not using Ice Shard, then there is no damage change. I know it's your opinion... don't need to be told that.

What ice shard? I thought he said level 81 dark dragon

enguin:

[Lex]

I know what he said he was...

Unless you're using a spell that factors in LK for damage output (Ice Shard), then LK will not affect your raw numbers in the same manner that MA does. Why do I have to explain that? I know HE isn't using it; I was making a point.

[KawaiiSaka]

Originally Posted by LiLMewmew

What ice shard? I thought he said level 81 dark dragon

enguin:

O_O .. I never noticed that


@ Lex - Did you mean 200+ Luck? Probably... I think. I haven't really noticed my crits on my sheep so I'll have to go look at that. The Equipments I usually wear only give 60 Luck max. I do notice though, in GVG/PVP especially I miss a lot.

[Zephy]

Go HP on your vest definitely. Luck is something you worry about when you're at a higher level.

Even if you PvP at lot at level 81, put HP into it.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by KawaiiSaka

O_O .. I never noticed that


@ Lex - Did you mean 200+ Luck? Probably... I think. I haven't really noticed my crits on my sheep so I'll have to go look at that. The Equipments I usually wear only give 60 Luck max. I do notice though, in GVG/PVP especially I miss a lot.

I see. When you get more LK, you'll notice a big difference.

Also, I said "unless you're using Ice Shard" to make the point that spells don't factor in LK for raw damage. Dunno why that person tried to refute that.

[Cheesy]

If you reset from 1432 to 1441, you will have to compound a bit more HP at the cost of LK/MA, making you lose out on critical hitrate/damage. The question is whether that increase in LK can outweigh the loss of LK/MA due to having to compound HP instead.

[Jopee]

people seem to be confused when they say having higher LK = more damage.

im just assuming they meant higher damage in the sense that you "hit" (as in accuracy) more. a 7k is indeed more than a "miss" :P

1432 to 1441 wont give you a noticable difference except for the weight so... dont bother.

for PvM just go for MA...

the only need for high LK is in PvP. 200+ is decent, 300+ for higher end LK builds (mages and sense types)

dont forget HP... ive seen mages who get 1 shotted by a dark lance and i go wut? 8k HP only o.O

high end item recommendations:
-befana bride gives both good LK and HP.
-inferno shield gives you a 1.2k HP and LK compable
-love necklace has base HP and is HP compable, just look for 1 with high LK base
-wedding glasses has 22LK base and HP comp slots
-GMV for HP

my hax items today are so stupidly OP that you can easily get 18k HP with 350+ LK. are they trying to make Lions cry?