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Old 12 Jan 2007   #21
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Brandish Slay (which requires Straight Slay). Shinobi Combo is a great 1v1 skill, but consumes too much MP.

Honestly, Third Job won't come out in eTO for a long time so eventually you'll have enough TM points to get every skill for First and Second Job in a few months or so. If you were to save TM though, you'd have to sacrifice on other skills. If you just get Burning Rave and Pumping Heart during First Job, you should have enough TM to get Brandish Slay, Shinobi Combo, Berserk, and Blade Force Mastered.

Brandish Slay, yes. Berserk, yes. Shinobi Combo is over rated, but if you don't mind the cost of MP then yes.[/quote]

you said that shinobi combo cost to much mp, but brandish slay cost 540 mp mastered while shinobi combo cost 440, 100 less then brandish, and how is brandish really better? arnt they both 1v1 skills?
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Old 12 Jan 2007   #22
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Brandish Slay is an attack with quite a wide AoE, not 1v1.

Shinobi Combo, with around -15~-20 DX, you deal 108% attack * 5 hits, which is just around 540% with 5 DP reduction. It potentially does 12 hits, but that requires -57 DX. It seems that the number of hits increases by 1 every -6DX.

SC dmg = AP * 108% * number of hits

Brandish Slay does 450% attack without using water weapon, with one DP reduction only. With a 50% water weapon, the damage is 575%.

BS dmg = AP * (450% + water% * 2.5)

You could say SC has a higher damage potential, which must be as BS is only a mobbing skill, but I'm not at all sure how such insane DX can be obtained.
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Old 18 Jan 2007   #23
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Sorry to be noob, but How do i distribute my points like 4114? do i give 4 points to power, 1 point to magic, 1 point to sense, and 4 points to charm? or do i just distribute my points equally to power and charm and none to magic and sense? please help! thanks!!!
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Old 18 Jan 2007   #24
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a 4114 build is only when creating a character. meaning 4 in power, 1 in magic and sense, 4 in charm. you use your points each elvel however you like. most buffalos would put all into AP(attack power).
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Old 19 Jan 2007   #25
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Thank you very much for your info!
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Old 22 Jan 2007   #26
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why shouldnt u max pumping heart rite away wen u get it?
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Old 22 Jan 2007   #27
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In the skill builds listed, it's probably not mastered right away because the 1% is pretty small at lower levels. With the 3 TM you don't use for mastering, you can use it to master an attack skill faster, thus leading to faster killing.

In my own experience, I don't think it's worth it to use 3 points to master it anyhow, I don't have enough TM points right now to use anyway.
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Old 23 Jan 2007   #28
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Hey CujoEx you never fixed that error i told you, cuz you said you need lvl 10 knockdown oe something in order to get straight slay... so then i looked up straight slay it says no requirements needed is that suppose to happen or what cuz some of the names for eTo are outdated.

but hey the credits belong to you for your superior effort for this guide thanks^^!!
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Old 23 Jan 2007   #29
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ty for info frozen
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Old 24 Jan 2007   #30
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Originally Posted by Frozen
In the skill builds listed, it's probably not mastered right away because the 1% is pretty small at lower levels. With the 3 TM you don't use for mastering, you can use it to master an attack skill faster, thus leading to faster killing.

In my own experience, I don't think it's worth it to use 3 points to master it anyhow, I don't have enough TM points right now to use anyway.
Well, you're right about Pumping Heart not being useful during lower levels, however, during your higher levels, 1% can mean a lot depending on the amount of AP you have. In a gathered party when fighting a boss or training as a group, 1%x6 people=6% more AP dmg. Keep in mind that it's not only a self buffer, but a party buffer as well.

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Hey CujoEx you never fixed that error i told you, cuz you said you need lvl 10 knockdown oe something in order to get straight slay... so then i looked up straight slay it says no requirements needed is that suppose to happen or what cuz some of the names for eTo are outdated.

but hey the credits belong to you for your superior effort for this guide thanks^^!!
When did I say I need LV 10 Knockdown for Straight Slay? It doesn't say in the first post either. I'm just copying and translating the information from jWiki and jotted some notes down as well from what I learned from other people.

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Anyways, I'm planning to refresh this whole guide. I noticed a lot of changes with eTO, such as Mastered Debuffers are 49% not 51% compared to jTO. Second Job Requirements is LV 50 , TM LV 40. I had a lot of notes jotted down but I had to reformat my computer earlier due to some strange bug, so I have to start all over. Sorry if I haven't been replying much. If you need any help, ask raisinbun and/or Citrustang. They're more professional and more experienced than me when it comes to Buffalos.
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Old 24 Jan 2007   #31
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Yes, I realize that, and it is a valid point. However, you are rarely going to have 5 other people in your party that depend on AP. What's even rarer is sticking together while training. Basically, mastering it can wait until later.

With that said, I do intend to master it when I have enough points, it's always nice to have more damage.

A tiny question I'd like to ask as well. Since BF is not out in eTO as of currently, would it be wise to master (or get level 10) SS when I have enough TM? I was thinking of getting it as I find myself to be mobbed quite frequently. However, the downside of that is if the next batch of skills are released before I have enough TM for BF, I'll have to wait until I have enough.

This would all be a null point if more skills aren't coming out anytime soon though.
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hey cujo r u going tp fix the problem that you need 50 lvl and 40 tm to get second job?
its really useful to change it! I need to know exactly wat to do anyways
this is because i dont want to have a messed up buff
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Old 28 Jan 2007   #33
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Talking about pumping heart where are the mini batteries found in Tricksters, there barely no one selling them and i couldnt find any...
anways did any of you guys mastered your pumping heart?
If you did tell me where you bought the items from cause my buff is short on tm points. Well anyways Cujo hope you re-construct the guide, ill be online if you need assistance or anything if you want =)
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Old 28 Jan 2007   #34
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You can find mini batteries digging in poppuri dungeon.
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Old 31 Jan 2007   #35
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this guide makes me want to start a buffalo. good job
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Old 5 Feb 2007   #36
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Originally Posted by sandflea1110
You can find mini batteries digging in poppuri dungeon.
Those are not the batteries they are MINI BATTERIES which is from Plug Bats
and the ones in poppuri dungeon are LONG LASTING BATTERIES
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Old 6 Feb 2007   #37
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cool chaos its pretty good info since i probably need it soon
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Old 9 Feb 2007   #38
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thanks chaos, my bad info may have wasted people's time.
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Old 14 Feb 2007   #39
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Does anyone notice that Mastered Pumping Heart last 160s using 320 MP, while lv10 lasts 145s using 290 MP?

The MP per lasting time is the same for both, so I believe there's no harm mastering it early on (as soon as you can comfortably cast it, ~lv50)

...other than losting 3 TM points...but what else would you want to get beside BR and PH before second job anyway?

Mastered BR + Mastered PH + Mastered BE + lv10 Shockvibe = 50 points
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Old 20 Feb 2007   #40
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Hey guys,

Uhm, excuse the noobiness, but I just started two days ago, so yeah. >__>

I'm currently level 11 (nothing special) and I'm a 4114 build. I didn't really know what to do with my points, so I've been doing 2 AP, 1 DX, 1 LK per level.

Advice please? o__0

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