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Old 31 May 2007   #81
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Hey i found this guide quite help Thanx
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Old 6 Jun 2007   #82
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I really like your guide, I've noticed in many of the guides I've read so far that none of them mention why Tornado Bomb or Whirlwind Attack isn't used in any of the combo, I'd like to know why?
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Old 7 Jun 2007   #83
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Tornado Bomb is a fixed damage skill, meaning it's based on level, not your stat growth.

Let's compare Burning Rave, a lower skill, and Tornado Bomb.

At Lv 50 for a 4114 Pure AP Build (no equips), your AP should be 214.

Burning Rave will do 663 dmg in 1s using 40MP
Tornado Bomb will do 1534 dmg in 3s using 164MP

Burning Rave is a fast skill and you can fit about 2 hits before Tornado Bomb's cooltime. That's 1326 dmg on one enemy with 80 MP used. That's half the cost of Tornado Bomb.

Burning Rave will do 1903 dmg in 1s using 40MP
Tornado Bomb will do 1934 dmg in 3s using 164MP

Don't forget, Burning Rave's cooltime is low and the MP is cheap. You pretty much doubled the damage of Tornado Bomb while using less MP.

I guess Tornado Bomb is an okay skill, but it's the least useful attack among the others.

(Equation used by Japanese Trickster Online may differ from English Trickster Online)
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Old 9 Jun 2007   #84
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oh cool, I'm a lvl 15 buffalo I dont know if I messed up or not, My Build is 4213, Should I start over, most of my points are in AP and HP? I already know about all the xferring stuff.
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Old 11 Jun 2007   #85
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>a bit out of topic< my buff's 4213>.>" should i restart..? lvl122 here xP

lvl15 so lucky>.> i messd up big time..
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Old 11 Jun 2007   #86
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actually, it'll be fine if you pump 90% of your points in AP and the last 10% in hp, I've been doing great damage and also my hp is doing great, MP is not a problem any more and I also notice I carry less mpots which is a good sign. But the put it all into ap is amazing damage ^^
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Old 11 Jun 2007   #87
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Thumbs up

Cujo thanks for making this guide it really is helping me.
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Old 11 Jun 2007   #88
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actually, it'll be fine if you pump 90% of your points in AP and the last 10% in hp, I've been doing great damage and also my hp is doing great, MP is not a problem any more and I also notice I carry less mpots which is a good sign. But the put it all into ap is amazing damage ^^
I don't think you put enough points into HP to make a significant difference (considering your 90% AP, 10% HP). You might want to consider going 4114 instead of 4213, the extra HP will stop you needing to add into the stat and also the extra point in Magic doesn't really benefit you much. Even with 2 in magic, your MD won't change much of a Magic types damage compared to a 1 in magic.
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really >_>, dam thats my 3rd time I had to redo my build -.-'
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Old 15 Jun 2007   #90
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im using the mob build, in the english TO, but we dont have brandish slay. what skill do i use instead?
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Old 16 Jun 2007   #91
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wat skills should i get for 2nd job....
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Old 16 Jun 2007   #92
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Ok i think that nobody have seen my last post so its why i will ask my questions again.

This guide is good and helpfull BUT it is based on jTO version like every buffalo guide in this forum. This is a big problem for skill builds cause the eTO 2cnd job skills aren't the same that the jTO 2cnd job skills. I don't know if i have miss something cause everybody says "thanks for this beautifull guide!" but no one says "2cnd job skills in this guide just don't exist in eTO version!"

Well i am really bored cause i can't find a skill build made for eTO version. I think that its the time to make a BIG update for all thoses guides or create new ones cause it is just useless to follow a skill build if the skills don't exist!
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Old 18 Jun 2007   #93
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[quote=???]oh cool, I'm a lvl 15 buffalo I dont know if I messed up or not, My Build is 4213, Should I start over, most of my points are in AP and HP? I already know about all the xferring stuff.]
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>a bit out of topic< my buff's 4213>.>" should i restart..? lvl122 here xP

lvl15 so lucky>.> i messd up big time..
Yes, you should both either restart or change your growth through MyShop. The thing about having 20% Magic is that you'll NEVER use MA, meaning 20% of your stats will be wasted on MA everytime you level. If you don't want to start over, you could just equip well compounded HP gear to help you survive higher levels. Getting skills like Shockvibe/Luck Breaker or Faint are great skills to prevent from getting hit.

Either ways, it's not a dramatic difference until you hit LV 200+. I've seen a lot of 4123 Builds doing fine with 30% Charm and they all had some extra HP/DP equipments. Just think of it this way, you're more defensive against Magic Attacks at least .. heh.

Originally Posted by MusicMike
im using the mob build, in the english TO, but we dont have brandish slay. what skill do i use instead?
Brandish Slay will be released sometime after the event. Just be patient and get the skills that's available to you now.

Originally Posted by xfyux
wat skills should i get for 2nd job....
I see that you missed the whole point of my guide. Read carefully. There are tons of recommended Skill Builds in there.

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Ok i think that nobody have seen my last post so its why i will ask my questions again.

This guide is good and helpfull BUT it is based on jTO version like every buffalo guide in this forum. This is a big problem for skill builds cause the eTO 2cnd job skills aren't the same that the jTO 2cnd job skills. I don't know if i have miss something cause everybody says "thanks for this beautifull guide!" but no one says "2cnd job skills in this guide just don't exist in eTO version!"

Well i am really bored cause i can't find a skill build made for eTO version. I think that its the time to make a BIG update for all thoses guides or create new ones cause it is just useless to follow a skill build if the skills don't exist!
What are you talking about? There's both eTO and jTO in this guide as well as the difference between each one (jTO usually has combos involved in each skill while eTO is based on one high damage). I've been updating for the past couple months, too. Some of the skills are based off two eTO wikis and some I saw in game.
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Old 18 Jun 2007   #94
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Ok CujoEX I am feeling very sorry about my last message cause I just don't see that you had updated this guide recently. Last time I looked this guide (1 mounth ago maybe) the skill builds was full of skills who aren't exist in current eTO (all 1st job skills was ok but lot of 2cnd job skills was not exist in eTO).
Now the builds are ok with eTO so i want to tell you thanks for your work.
Anyway my last post was not an insult and I am sorry if you feeled it like this, I was just a lot confused and frustrated to don't find a skill build for eTO, and i forgot to look if you had updated the guide.

Ok thanks you for this guide CujoEX!
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Old 19 Jun 2007   #95
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No problem.

Well whether or not the skills were out in eTO, there was always a tag near each skill stating it's Japanese only so people wouldn't get confused. When eTO released new skills, I found other equations and charts from different forums/sites compared to jTO so I placed it there as well. I'm planning to update the forum soon with more details as well as make a Bunny Guide (when I have time).
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Old 19 Jun 2007   #96
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Great guide! I found the opening particularly funny:

"Please pardon my grammer and spelling errors,"

You spelled grammar wrong. XD
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Old 20 Jun 2007   #97
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Is Berserker any good?I just added it til lvl 8 and I definitely thinks it sucks ._..You cant control your movement and only able to use normal attacks ._.
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Old 21 Jun 2007   #98
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thx, my buff (4123) is now 3x, the build is working nicely. its good having a 40mp skill doing 310% of ur dmg. great guide

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Old 22 Jun 2007   #99
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i think i stuffed up with my skills im a lvl 53 warrior and my tm lvl is lvl 55.
i have shockwave lvl 10, burnig rave lvl 1, pumping heart lvl 10, upper smash lvl 10 , bullseye lvl 10 and shocvibe lvl 7. What should i do now??
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Old 22 Jun 2007   #100
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I think brandish slay is out now. it came with the new patch. its called Tidal Slash in eto XD.
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