CujoEX's Ultimate Revolution Buffalo Guide - Page 2

jee · 27 Dec 2007

P.S.
im looking for the build thats just straight RAW strength.
i remember there was another build that wasnt as strong but it had good combos(like u can stun monsters)
but thats not the build i want...
i want the build that has the highest dmg... thanks

blankXsilver · 27 Dec 2007

Originally Posted by jee

P.S.
im looking for the build thats just straight RAW strength.
i remember there was another build that wasnt as strong but it had good combos(like u can stun monsters)
but thats not the build i want...
i want the build that has the highest dmg... thanks

Highest damage = Fully equipped pure AP Gladiator using Sonic Slash with the highest water attribute sword as possible or Shadow with the lowest DX you can achieve.

anymike00 · 27 Dec 2007

I don't understand how to follow the skill build that is recommended. Are you supposed to get each skill in order and level them to a certain level? And what is the number after the skill?

CujoEX · 28 Dec 2007

@jee
Any of the builds that contain Sonic Slash would work perfectly fine for high damage. Equipping yourself with elemental attr (in this case Water Attr.) weapons will increase your normal damage and skill damage; plus add an elemental attack to your normal attack to increase the damage against water weak monsters.

For Lolz's idea of Shadow, all you need is -45 DX to reach it's maximum combo. It's normal damage still come from AP.

Place all Bonus Points (BP) to AP. To be more offensive, choose a 4141 build to increase it's natural LK which increases it's critical hit ratio.

@anymike00
It's listed in order that you should get them. Most are arranged by the lowest TM level to the highest.

blankXsilver · 28 Dec 2007

Oh so -45 is minimum eh. So it's the same as blazing/shinobi

jee · 28 Dec 2007

"----------Honorable Mentioned Gladiator (Pure) Builds----------
*Type A: Mastering all of the highest skills and getting their prerequisites
LV 10 Shockvibe 10
Lv 10 Bull's Eye 11
LV 10 Pumping Heart 12
LV 10 Hyper Beat 13
LV 10 Lacerator 12
LV 1 Aura of Haste 3
Master Tidal Slash 15
Master Blazing Strike 15
Master Sonic Slash 16
Master Shadow Attack 16
Master Suffocation 15
Total TM Used 138"

see this builds cool cuz it has shadow and sonic.
i was looking at the old jap builds and following it and it messed me up i think..
i have master burning rave but burning raves not on this build!
so i was gonna follow ur build...

"Master Burning Rave 13
LV 10 Pumping Heart 12
LV 10 Shockvibe 10
LV 10 Lacerator 12
Master Piercing Wave 15
Master Berserk 15
LV 10 Tidal Slash 12
Master Sonic Slash 16
Total TM Used 105"

but since i was looking at the jap one this whole time I have hyper beat, which i think is a USLESS!!!!!

so im stuck on a guide for me...
can u tell me whats the point in hyper beat?

CujoEX · 28 Dec 2007

For the first build you mentioned, you can still work the build with Burning Rave and delay on getting Suffocate. Suffocate isn't that great of a skill in my opinion, and won't be useful if you don't PvP/GvG.

Hyper Beat is a prerequisite if you plan to get Blazing Strike and/or Sonic Slash. If you're going Hybrid for your Third Job, it's a prerequisite for one of the Bunny skills.

jee · 28 Dec 2007

hey thanks cujo
ur the best!!! i always look for ur guides when ever i play games LMAO
one more thing! this dosnt have to do with a buffalo so I dont know if im gonna get flamed for this...
but i wanna know from u...
im planing on geting a lvl 35 pharaoh SET the tut one...
but I wanna get it to have high dmg...
so i was talkign to this guy who had it compounded ( something like his AP is like 200 or sometihng and with the elemental attribs its like 165% X his ap)
thats all i wanna know ... is how can i make that?
do i have to refine? or compound? sorry again!!! for all this

jee · 28 Dec 2007

P.S.

he told me i wont be able to make it cuz its hard and i need luck... is this true?

CujoEX · 28 Dec 2007

Refining certain weapons will either increase AP, AC, or MA (and I think DA and LK .. I'm not 100% sure), depends on the weapon. The Pharaoh Sword refined will increase AP.

To Mature (Equip) Compound, you have to find an NPC named Compounder Nate. You have to find items (list in Wiki), that the item can compound with.

The LK he's talking about is the LK in your Growth. According to Nate and guides from Trickster Online, the more LK you have, then the better rate of getting a good compound value. You'll commonly see LK Foxes (or Sense Characters with LK Boosters), especially made for compounding. Buffaloes aren't naturally good at compounding, but you can still gamble.

Even if you do make a Pure LK or any High LK character, getting a near minimal value is still very common.

jee · 29 Dec 2007

oh ic~
ok so let me get this straight...
so having luck only make ur chances of getting a better maximum?
so doesn't mean ur refining will fail then?
if thats the case!
i might as well do it my self!!!
i was scared this whole time cuz im a buffalo with hardly any LK and someone told me I NEED LK to refine...
but since u cleard that up... IM HAPPY...
and one more thing... refining weapons... u can only refine with elementals right? so when people say its soil elemental, it also increases AP etc... aswell as the % of elemental Attributes

what does mature mean? mature an item?
so does that mean if its a lvl 1 item u can mature it to like a lvl 4?
cuz ive seen that around, but i thoguht thats all based on the drop

and Im gonna go with ur build... the only difference is that u didnt add hyper beat but like u said, its a pre to sonic slash so... i like ur build best cuz it saves me TM and im short on it lol

blankXsilver · 30 Dec 2007

The lvl 1~lvl 11 on equips is the result of refining. For more information, click here. To add extra status and elements you need to do mature compound via Alchemist Nate. Info can be found here

FoolishFox · 3 Jan 2008

What exactly makes the japanese Wikipedia guide outdated? I just came back from a big trickster break and my Buffalo is 34/29 with 1 Shockwave, 1 Bulls Eye, 10 Burning Rave and 10 Burning Heart. I don't see Bulls Eye mentioned in your recommended build at all! Why is that so and how does that affect my character? Should I just follow your recommended build from now on?

CujoEX · 3 Jan 2008

Originally Posted by FoolishFox

What exactly makes the japanese Wikipedia guide outdated? I just came back from a big trickster break and my Buffalo is 34/29 with 1 Shockwave, 1 Bulls Eye, 10 Burning Rave and 10 Burning Heart. I don't see Bulls Eye mentioned in your recommended build at all! Why is that so and how does that affect my character? Should I just follow your recommended build from now on?

Skill builds differ from person to person. The recommended build I suggested was to aim for the most useful skills for a Buffalo. Right below my build are honorable mentioned builds and they do include Bull's Eye. Those builds are not bad at all, and could be better than my build if used properly. Again, it depends on how you play the game. Take a good look at the skill's descriptions to see if the skills in the build are right for you.

FoolishFox · 4 Jan 2008

Thanks. What's wrong with the old japanese trickster guide though?

CujoEX · 5 Jan 2008

It doesn't take Third Job Skills into account.

Jaylan6 · 17 Jan 2008

Hey Cujo nice guide..but any suggestion on what skills to get for Hyrbid buffs

p.s used ur last guide on my other buff and currlently 167 ^^

Bellyface · 18 Jan 2008

IM really confuse about the numbers i know now 4114 but what stats should 4123 grow anyone tell me pls.

CujoEX · 19 Jan 2008

Originally Posted by Jaylan6

Hey Cujo nice guide..but any suggestion on what skills to get for Hyrbid buffs

p.s used ur last guide on my other buff and currlently 167 ^^

I'm just going to make a rough outline with this skill build:

Master Burning Rave 13
LV 10 Pumping Heart 12
LV 10 Shockvibe 10
LV 10 Lacerator 12
Master Tidal Slash 15
LV 10 Bull's Eye 11
LV 10 Hyper Beat 13
LV 1 Dash 3
LV 10 Uppersmash 11
Master Uppercut 15
Master Quad Punch 15
Master Counter 15
Total TM Used 145

At this point, you should hit the TM requirement for Guard or Eagle Eye (or Piercing Wave) and master them on the spot. You can choose which skill to master first.

*Edit*
Sorry, my math was a bit off. If you choose Guard, you will need 2 more TM to master it (which isn't that far off).

Originally Posted by Bellyface

IM really confuse about the numbers i know now 4114 but what stats should 4123 grow anyone tell me pls.

Check chapter 4.0. It's there in the first paragraph.