The Complete First Job Lion Gunner Guide - Page 3

Volta · 28 Oct 2006

xD I have never hacked and never will. This guide is for legit lions. Also the accesories section is based around normal builds IE 2143 and 3142 and not extreme builds so yes they will change but if yhou do go 4141 (what are you thinking xD) then you will need AC and DP compound but my HP sucks right now at lvl 77 with a 3142 build so yours is gunna suck more.

Nat, those came out with Phantom School. All are good you need all of them.

The things in rose are not that easy to dig. My suggestion is make friends with a fox lmao. I was lucky enough to be there when alot of people were and back when they were cheep (5k each for everything including petrolium) so I got it easy. They go for about 10k each if your gunna buy. It took me 2 weeks with help to get everything.

shmoo83 · 30 Oct 2006

Its confirmed that you can still learn 1st job skills even when you are an inventor. :)

Read it from Sasuto's 2nd job skill guide. Like in any game I play, I usually go for hybrids.
Like my lion is gun type but I have basic detection for those hard to get quest items. :0

I am now working on getting lucky 7 to level 10 as it is confirmed that LK adds accuracy.

@SinneD
Wow man your 80 already? Talk about power levelling. I've found out that I can't solo TuT yet. Maybe when I am lvl 70. :)

So I am stuck @ mong's village. :) Anyone have little cora cards for sale?

Sasuto · 3 Nov 2006

Originally Posted by Natsuro

Rhythm Rings? Acceptance Trunks? Dou Doctor? Wtf is that!? xD

I only have my necklace watch with 1 slot, and a shrewd metal gun. D= Craft Beret with 102 dp as well

Rhythm Earring - it has +6 ac and +6 luck and you can compound ac into it, the BESTERST lion earring you can ever get and if you get lucky you can get high ac into it like i did and got +13 ac on my rhythm earring

Acceptance Trucks - +5 ac +5 ma, it basically a necklace watch but with 1 more ac added, but the compounds you can add kinda sucks, but if you have a bad necklace watch with like +3 luck just change it

Duo Doctor - Its weaker than steel belt band, but you can compound it with dp, so if you can get lucky you can get +100 dp on your duo doctor which will last you pretty much forever since every other belts are from events or myshop

Volta · 3 Nov 2006

Yes LK adds to crits and accuracy. However, it is not neccissary to get it past level 5 for the time being untill you get a stronger attack such as power shot, or if you want an AoE first, ruolette shot.

inyczbrianxp · 7 Nov 2006

1/1/4/4 and 4/1/4/1

1/1/4/4 is very good build. its the best built out of all lions to solo bosses. people: 1/1/4/4 is ****in weak!!!! whaaa!!!. keep crying u noobs. u dont know about 1/1/4/4 lions. u guys have to go and find some 1/1/4/4 clips. they solo bosses like NOTHING. low dmg isnt a big deal. there attack isnt even that weak anyways. they take great hits.

4/1/4/1 is also a very good build BUT its not for solo. its for party. its for staying back and laying great dmg while tanks liek racoon and warrior upfront.

Volta · 7 Nov 2006

Lol well having actualy known people who are well over level 100 with both these builds I can make an objective statement about both.

When I wrote this guide initally I thought that 1144 lion's damage was really bad. In fact the only place you notice the difference is at low levels. By the time you are level 100 you will be hitting about 400 damage less then a 4141 and 200 less then a 3142 and 100 less then a 2143 (all points into AC). This IS a big difference untill you have some second job skills maxed. However, with patience this is a great build. At level 80, it is REALLY difficult for me to solo bosses and even fight things that are 40+ levels above me (which really shouldnt be difficult). Therefore I still stick with my origonal statement that 2143's are the best. If there is a myshop item that allows you to change your build I will be doing this.

4141 is horrible. Bottom line. You will die at everything. I have like 1.3k HP so I cant even imagine how bad this would be. You will ALWAYS need a party after level 40. Its completely pointless unless you are always training with friends.

I wont knock the 1144 build completely because it is good but 4141 is senseless (actualy its got 4 sense xP).

Bottom line (again), go 2143.

inyczbrianxp · 8 Nov 2006

its not true that 4/1/4/1 nor 1/1/4/4 totally sucks.. it depends how you like your character. nothing in this game or world is easy. dont go for build dat is fast and easy. dats just being stupid. patience = rich + strong. plus if ur the type who likes alota defense and hp, just make a warrior or racoon. nobody said u HAVE to make a lion..... -.-

Volta · 9 Nov 2006

Well this is a lion guide so yeah thats what we are talking about...

as far as 4141 goes, 3142 suck enough and Im happy that theres going to be a growth reset. I may actualy choose to go 1144 since I have already gotten to level 80. 4141 is horrible. Sorry it is. If you go it I pity you.

AznHeros · 10 Nov 2006

Nice Guide Sinned

I picked 2143 because it's stats r amazing :P ~

- AznHeros

xKakashi · 10 Nov 2006

Bein a legit lion and watching all those hackersjust make it harder tanks for making a guide ^^

GreyGoose · 11 Nov 2006

Hi guys i started playing trickster just yesterday. I opened a lion 1144, can someone explain me what stats and skills i should put on?
now i got 1 into sense something, 1 into invinceble drill and 1 into stone strike. about the other stats i've put some into DA and LUCK and now i started put on AC, is it wrong and i should put all into ac and start over (i'm lvl 11).
the last thing is that this guide sad u need to use swrod until 25 and only than guns and another dude sad he started using guns on 15 because he couldn't take it, what does he mean?

~ thanks for the help.

raisinbun · 11 Nov 2006

Originally Posted by GreyGoose

Hi guys i started playing trickster just yesterday. I opened a lion 1144, can someone explain me what stats and skills i should put on?
now i got 1 into sense something, 1 into invinceble drill and 1 into stone strike. about the other stats i've put some into DA and LUCK and now i started put on AC, is it wrong and i should put all into ac and start over (i'm lvl 11).
the last thing is that this guide sad u need to use swrod until 25 and only than guns and another dude sad he started using guns on 15 because he couldn't take it, what does he mean?

~ thanks for the help.

DA, LK, invincible drilling and sixth sense are all useless to a lion gunner. Looks like a clear case that you should start over; you are still at low level

Wait till TM Lv25 before you start using gun because at TM Lv25 you get the skill Invincible Reload, without which your gun won't reload when you are being hit.

GreyGoose · 11 Nov 2006

thanks, i opened a new char. 1144 lion, all into AC.
I should put 5 into stone strike, 1 gun carrier, 1 invincible reload, max booster, max lucky seven?

DarKM0dEeE · 11 Nov 2006

Originally Posted by Grey Goose
thanks, i opened a new char. 1144 lion, all into AC.
I should put 5 into stone strike, 1 gun carrier, 1 invincible reload, max booster, max lucky seven?

max lucky seven after u max poer shot and random shot ... i think it the best 4 lion

Volta · 13 Nov 2006

The actual skill build in this is the best for any growth build. So that means regardless of weather your 1144 or 4141 or 3142 or 2143, you should follow it. For any of these builds excepting 4141 you should put all bonus points into AC. For 4141 I would do a DP/AC hybrid build but dont go 4141 lol.

raisinbun · 14 Nov 2006

Originally Posted by Sinned

The actual skill build in this is the best for any growth build. So that means regardless of weather your 1144 or 4141 or 3142 or 2143, you should follow it. For any of these builds excepting 4141 you should put all bonus points into AC. For 4141 I would do a DP/AC hybrid build but dont go 4141 lol.

If you do DP/AC in a 4141 build, you end up getting 6 pts in AC every level and 3 pts in DP, whereas if you do all AC in a 2143 build, you also get 6 pts in AC, but you get 3 pts in DP and HP and HV... you would then ask why you didn't pick 2143 at first XD

So I would suggest adding all pts to AC in a 4141 build, or maybe some LK if you want accuracy, that is if anyone ever go 4141... =/

shmoo83 · 15 Nov 2006

The problem with 4 1 4 1 build is this: what you need primariliy in 4 1 4 1 is the 4 ac it adds.
The other 4 in ap and dx are pretty much useless, and you'll probably add your bonus stats into DP and/or HP.

Thats whats good about 1 1 4 4. You maximize growth stats on HP-DP-HV, then put bonus stats all only on AC.

That my opinion anyways. :)

MIBZ · 15 Nov 2006

Originally Posted by shmoo83
The problem with 4 1 4 1 build is this: what you need primariliy in 4 1 4 1 is the 4 ac it adds.
The other 4 in ap and dx are pretty much useless, and you'll probably add your bonus stats into DP and/or HP.

Thats whats good about 1 1 4 4. You maximize growth stats on HP-DP-HV, then put bonus stats all only on AC.

That my opinion anyways.

I agree with u ....
Lion 1144 hav more advantages when killing boss because it have more dp and hp ....
but it damage so low make it hard 2 train when you first start it ...

Volta · 15 Nov 2006

Yes 1144 is probly the best build but it is NOT a beginers build. Or maybe it is beginers seem to have more patience... xP It takes patience to get up there. If its your first char or you want a quick leveling lion (actual it will be an average speed 4141 will be the fastest early game 1144 is the fastest late game) go 2143 if you can tought it out go 1144.