The LK Lion, in a nutshell

[Blessedone777]

I have a Question About Luck Doesn't Luck Increase the chances of an item being found when you are Drilling I was looking at the wiki under drilling and that is what it said please clarify this for me, thanks in advance.

[arleya4h]

y not try a 2143 build ??

[Yellowdoggie]

why would you need a 2143 if your not a gunner o.O

[StudyPunkRockism]

Blessed - it's DA, not LK. LK has nothing to do with drilling
arle - if you're going to be a LK Lion, you're going to be melee all the time. You want as much defensive power as possible. Like Foxes, LK Lions are skill-dependent, so a 2 in Power won't give you any extra damage.

[arleya4h]

oo i see thnxs alot

[Jets]

hey a LK lion does good in compounding wht items?

Dual-Attack Build:
TM12 - Stone Strike (Master)
TM25 - Sixth Sense (Master)
TM38 - Shuriken Mastery (Master)
TM40 - Armor Destructor (Lv 1)
TM56 - Lucky 7 (Master)
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TM95 - Fortune Hit (Master)


hey what does the TM stands for? I mean is it
your TMlevel must be..
or
the TMpoints you need..

hey in the Dual skill build.. Does the TM stands for the TMlevel?

[StudyPunkRockism]

Updated the guide.................. Mostly included info when Puzz suggested a 4141 LK Lion using guns.

[fellowship]

Hi,
I started an lion 1144 with everything on luck in 4/5 days i leveled to level 67. I used the following quests mainly: All the cardgirls riddles, Noras sewage with the sprayers (goes quick), megalopolis the Gallis, caballa the mandragoras and the electric snails quests. What i wanted to ask is: Is there a problem with 1144 gunner Pure luck lions? I haven't encountered any problems yet. My defense is strong and i use myshop items to get a total of 19 accuracy extra. I also put 11 levels points in AC and no more because 19 AC i think is enough to 2 hit electric snails with power shot. So with this big luck in it i see advantages for mature compounding. I skipp shooting spree because powershot offers me enough damage to kill enemies quickly and instead of that i take the master compounding skill which they didn't made for nothing. I think this skill raises the compouding results to better outcomes.
So for the people who are myshop users and want to take it this way i did it might be a cool way to get everything out of it to be a good compounder and an average if not higher then average killer which is also safe from getting killed quickly.

I am still a newbie on trickster so if someone notice that something is not right then say it to me so i can learn from it.

Greetings,
Arjan IGN Pontikas

[MrClastro]

Compounding master does almost nothing. Nate is rigged, percentage doesn't come into play anymore.
I'm assuming that you are a gun LK lion. Although I have not made a LK lion yet, I believe the main form of LK lion is melee. Which would include Stone Strike, and Lucky Fist. I don't think gun is a good idea.

To a LK Lion not using guns, 1144 is the way to go.

Your AC should be coming from your weapon and pets. I would not compound elements into weapons because your regular melee damage is too low and elements does not affect skills. I would get dagger type weapon with base DA, and compound DA, or AC.

[Levin]

Originally Posted by MrClastro

Compounding master does almost nothing. Nate is rigged, percentage doesn't come into play anymore.
I'm assuming that you are a gun LK lion. Although I have not made a LK lion yet, I believe the main form of LK lion is melee. Which would include Stone Strike, and Lucky Fist. I don't think gun is a good idea.

I would disagree, using a gun isn't such a bad idea, especially with things such as ult basic caps which could grant you 9-11 ac on the head and various other forms of ac equips you can use. I myself have a lvl 131 lion 1144 pure lk gunner lion and minus the fact that my gun is a shoddy 330ap 15ac blue seal, I can pretty much just power shot and regular gun shot a santa bear which is probably just as fast as going the da or lk gear route using lucky fist and ss on a bear. Infact when you get double shot, it's overkill there, although I can predict training at techi later might be a issue but meh I need a better gun

[MrClastro]

Using gun, with all stats poured into LK kind of loses it's purpose as a LK lion. The only stat LK affects for gunner is block and accuracy, and not to mention that AC gunners hardly ever miss unless it's monsters 200 above their level. Not to mention that Santa Bears are gun weak. If you can do 1 OHKO, and 1PS + Regular, I believe anyone would take the first choice.

The thing with LK lion is to take advantage of Lucky Fist. 1144 AC gunner would simply work much better than a 1144 LK gunner.

[Levin]

Well if you want to ohko, I still say double shot > lucky fist especially considering the cool down and the fact that most mobs are phys resistant, I myself have tried vs what I would consider a decently high with normal phys resistant mob aka nightmare (takes 75% damage from physical) and lucky fist doesn't ohko it at all.

In fact I think you're overestimating lucky fist especially with it's 6s cooldown vs 3s on double shot and 1.5s on power shot.

[MrClastro]

The whole purpose of LK build is to stray away from the ordinary gunner builds. What's the point of making LK gunner, when AC gunner is still better?

[Levin]

That's like asking what's the point of making a melee lk lion when a melee lk fox has more skills for luck or has a stronger skill than a lion's pistol whip(land mine) or saying that other classes are better at being a melee fighter.

Just because they do more damage doesn't mean they're better, and you still have lucky fist as a secondary source of damage.

[MrClastro]

No. You can't really compare two different classes like that. I compared two different builds of lions, not to other classes. LK lions are an alternative build that actually works without guns. It's more for creative use than an effective build.

[Richman88]

Thanz for tha Info!!

[Anchors]

If you go LK gunner, chances are you'll dodge other lions more easily while never missing them at higher levels. There's a few high-level 4141 LK gunners around - not that I know any of them >_> - ask them.

[CujoEX]

If you're 1144, you can alternatively get Shuriken Master instead of Gun Skills. It'll be like a LK Fox (since Fox doesn't really use Precise Pitch). The damage is still decent.

Also, a 3142 or 4141 can level pretty fast with a Gun. It took my friend less than a week to get from 1 to 100+ (crazy hours training and semi-decent equips).

Other than that, your guide is awesome. Good job.

[singchuan]

i started a LK Lion abt 1 week its lvl51 n is 1144
i can stone strike twice snail die so use melee lion is better den gun if u r gunner use pure ac
but i still thinking need to learn gun booster just for the ac

[an5el]

Originally Posted by MrClastro

Compounding master does almost nothing. Nate is rigged, percentage doesn't come into play anymore.
I'm assuming that you are a gun LK lion. Although I have not made a LK lion yet, I believe the main form of LK lion is melee. Which would include Stone Strike, and Lucky Fist. I don't think gun is a good idea.



Your AC should be coming from your weapon and pets. I would not compound elements into weapons because your regular melee damage is too low and elements does not affect skills. I would get dagger type weapon with base DA, and compound DA, or AC.

why melee??

you can't use lucky fist w/o a gun right??

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can you use lucky fist w/o a gun???
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i personally perfer the 4141 lion build. its faster to level, and also, if you're really into trickster, gettinga 2k HP pouppuri pendant and 1.1k HP GMV would not be a problem. if that's not enough, the 360 HP from LK almond helmet would be a good + to HP.

power shot--->lucky fist (if not yet dead).

i guess a 4141 lion build is not for PVP.. its only purpose is drilling and compounding.

if ever you'll go PVP, you can go cyber hunter and get landmine.