Timed Crits w/ Gun - Page 3

IssacFrost · 5 Sep 2006

Id like to post this here:
Stretch STOPS ALL CRITICALS EXCEPT ONES COMING FROM GUNS.

aynakupo · 5 Sep 2006

there IS a way to shoot a critical hit without worrying about waiting for the dmg text/number to disappear.. we already know that critical hits are transferable... but nobody mentioned that a critical hit is storable... it even can be saved to be used on another map... heres how i do it... please give me credit for this... first... shoot... right when the red word/numbers disappears, click on a monster thats not in ur shooting range.. but before ur character follows it and shoot, simply click on something else to cancel the attack (most of the time, i pick up loots at this moment).. and on ur next shot.. no matter how long u wait... u will shoot a critical hit...

ive been using this technique to kill monsters that take one extra hit to kill without the critical... and remember, crits dont miss... so this is very useful...

the double shot glitch... i think its just lag when u click on a monster rapidly while the game program is trying to catch up with its processes... cause i havent seen anyone constantly do it before... its mostly luck for me... i saw a youtube video about doubleshot... and it only shows him doing it once in the whole vid...

Avatar · 5 Sep 2006

Yes but im more worried about the next timed crit shot, so far i only know that the timed crits arent affected by the raccoon's anti crit or evasive skills since timed crits are 100% accurate.

IssacFrost · 5 Sep 2006

Im unaware if timed crits are affected by Stretch. It seemingly states in the ability description that it will stop crits but not from Guns. Whether this includes normal or times is beyond me.

Kusanagi2k · 6 Sep 2006

the double shot glitch... i think its just lag when u click on a monster rapidly while the game program is trying to catch up with its processes... cause i havent seen anyone constantly do it before... its mostly luck for me... i saw a youtube video about doubleshot... and it only shows him doing it once in the whole vid...

Altoidz can do it everytime he wants in his video, he shows it like 3 or 4 times in different monsters (only some are replays)

IssacFrost · 6 Sep 2006

Originally Posted by Kusanagi2k

Altoidz can do it everytime he wants in his video, he shows it like 3 or 4 times in different monsters (only some are replays)

Double shot is a second job skill. Its called Quick Shot. Unless hes packing that then he is hacking. If he is packing that from second job yeah its legit.

Kusanagi2k · 6 Sep 2006

I'm 100% sure it's not a hack but i thik it's a glitch

IssacFrost · 6 Sep 2006

Originally Posted by Kusanagi2k

I'm 100% sure it's not a hack but i thik it's a glitch

Like I said if hes on second job and he got Quick Shot its legit. Quick Shot allows to attack twice with a gun. If it isnt then its a glitch.

Kusanagi2k · 7 Sep 2006

Stop being stubborn, even if he's 2nd job (which he isn't because it's the same lion sprite, not inventor) there are several things you should see before arguing:

1st) Why would he submit a doubleshot video when he's not doubleshooting? -_-"

2nd) Even if there's a skill called Quick Shot he's not using it, i saw that quick shot in the lvl 235 lion video (in which he's using a no reaload hack but that's not the point, he's still using a skill). And i say he's not using it because there's nothing being changed in the skills bar (i refer mostly to cooldown)

3rd) You should try yourself and see if you can do it (because i have done it and i'm a simple lvl 18)

So i say it's 100% glitch.

Now to stay on the Timed Crits topic:

Yesterday i was able to pack it with a Gun Type 1 (extremely easy just click when the dmg/miss icon dissapears. Also note that someone else was tanking otherwise i couldn't have done it :P) But now my question is, is it possible to get a normal crit dmg by chance when using this method? i mean, does it override or if i use timed crits i will never get normal crit dmg?

Thanks ^^

IssacFrost · 8 Sep 2006

I confirmed it it doesnt seem to be a glitch though. I mean its so fortitious it seems like put there on purpose just like a timed crit. It only happens after meeting some conditions and then and only then can you pull it out. It uses two bullets with one reload bar. I just coined it the running Double Shot. Its easy to pull off once you have better practice. I recommend having Gun protection and Load on the Run to make it more effective.

In essence:
Be close to your target.
Click past your target.
As soon as you do IMMEDIATLY click on your target.
There will be a slight delay as SOON as you whip out your gun CLICK LIKE MAD.
It really takes one click after that but clicking like mad helps ensure it.
You will pull two shots with one reload bar.
THERE IS NO OTHER way to pull it off. Ive tried everything and only kiting into targetting works.
So it seems (READ operative word seems might be a glitch though) to be put there on purpose.
You can time the double shot into timed crits.

Avatar · 8 Sep 2006

Quickshot is a skill, double shooting is a glitch or whatever you call it. Its hard to control though, i get it by chance, rather often when i kite within a rabid mob of mimics.

IssacFrost · 8 Sep 2006

Originally Posted by Avatar

Quickshot is a skill, double shooting is a glitch or whatever you call it. Its hard to control though, i get it by chance, rather often when i kite within a rabid mob of mimics.

Thats what I explained. Its so controllable but conditional at the same time it seems "glitched" on purpose. because you only get it while kiting and quickly aiming similar to how timed crits are done. When you do a timed crit the next time as soon as you whip your gun out (as long as you click somewhere else first then immediatly clicked on target) click like mad on your target (only once more is needed the click like mad is to have a better chance of ensuring it) and you will double shoot with one reload bar.

Kusanagi2k · 11 Sep 2006

nah i don't think so, the controllable part is there just because someone out there managed to get it; the doubleshot simply doesn't make any sense (unlike timed crit which seems to be just a timing technique) because the shooting part go like "Shoot -> Reload -> Shoot" i mean, there's nothing in between where u can get a double shot, without using the glitch that is.

Anyways, in conclusion i personally think it's just a glitch (and not put there on purpse lol)

Flamez · 19 Sep 2006

then, what about this ???

Avatar · 19 Sep 2006

Didnt you read the pic name?

IssacFrost · 19 Sep 2006

Originally Posted by Kusanagi2k

nah i don't think so, the controllable part is there just because someone out there managed to get it; the doubleshot simply doesn't make any sense (unlike timed crit which seems to be just a timing technique) because the shooting part go like "Shoot -> Reload -> Shoot" i mean, there's nothing in between where u can get a double shot, without using the glitch that is.

Anyways, in conclusion i personally think it's just a glitch (and not put there on purpse lol)

I think the glitch is caused by a delay between the pixel animation of walking and taking the gun out. Right there between those two frames I guess thats where the glitch is in.

Rave · 1 Oct 2006

I can't get 100% crits... I have to keep practicing. However, double shot isn't a hack >_> I've done it a few times by accident.

kaseix · 7 Oct 2006

do u need loading on the move for dble shot?

IssacFrost · 8 Oct 2006

Originally Posted by kaseix

do u need loading on the move for dble shot?

Nope but it sure helps a lot.

Optical · 8 Oct 2006

First time I tried it on my lion it worked. I was so happy. And then I failed miserably = ='