4141 Fox :o

[Thunderhermit]

As you all know, 4141 foxes can do serious fast attacks. This only applies to the second job outfit of the fox, correct? I made a fox hoping of fast crits! and awesome damage, turns out I will have to wait till 2nd job.

Regarding to training to level 50, I should get the golden lion shield, to maximize my output damage due to to stat input of AP, even though POWER is set at 4. Should I bother with the sword as well? Even though I should get a sword that has compoundable slot for DX.

As well for hats, I'm not sure if there any hats that have compoundable slots for DX, but which would be more useful, a LK hat or a hat with DX? Well, obviously it's the DX hat, but for the levels 30-50, since I can't hit like a madman(woman) till second job.

Since I don't have myshop, which will obviously be a turnoff to the whole fox idea, it would limit my pets to use. Should I be using a pet with DX mainly? or a pet with AP? There aren't that many pets that can hold both quality, until higher levels (100-ish)

As for training, I should maximize my DX as possible, and have as many LUK equips with it as well, correct? Since my LUK will be as high as it potentially can, being hit will be limited to a few times. With a 1 in charm, I know it'll be potential for serious deaths, but will LUK cover for most of it?

That's all I really have to ask, if there are any 4141 pure LUK mele foxes, please try to include information. ^^

[Ildanach]

Originally Posted by Thunderhermit

As you all know, 4141 foxes can do serious fast attacks. This only applies to the second job outfit of the fox, correct? I made a fox hoping of fast crits! and awesome damage, turns out I will have to wait till 2nd job.

Regarding to training to level 50, I should get the golden lion shield, to maximize my output damage due to to stat input of AP, even though POWER is set at 4. Should I bother with the sword as well? Even though I should get a sword that has compoundable slot for DX.

As well for hats, I'm not sure if there any hats that have compoundable slots for DX, but which would be more useful, a LK hat or a hat with DX? Well, obviously it's the DX hat, but for the levels 30-50, since I can't hit like a madman(woman) till second job.

Since I don't have myshop, which will obviously be a turnoff to the whole fox idea, it would limit my pets to use. Should I be using a pet with DX mainly? or a pet with AP? There aren't that many pets that can hold both quality, until higher levels (100-ish)

As for training, I should maximize my DX as possible, and have as many LUK equips with it as well, correct? Since my LUK will be as high as it potentially can, being hit will be limited to a few times. With a 1 in charm, I know it'll be potential for serious deaths, but will LUK cover for most of it?

That's all I really have to ask, if there are any 4141 pure LUK mele foxes, please try to include information. ^^

Second job Fox only provide you with the double crit animation and did not give you additional damage or speed or whatsoever.

[Khmer2k1d5]

@___@;; 1st Job Fox can attack fast, just get lower DX

[Thunderhermit]

If I were to be third job, would double crits still apply?

Edit: But getting DX equipment for levels 30-50 would sound kinda useless since it can be achieved in a matter of days, possibly hours. x.x

[swiftmage]

I'm a 4141 LK fox with DX/AP gear and I can say you will be SEVERLY gimped without myshop in the DX department, the new fashion accessories are extremely useful as well (I AP'd the horns) The north wind set shield is also the only shield in the game that can slot DX I believe and the min comp gems or w/e are very nice at turning the 2 min DX compounds to 3 min.

LK gear is not needed, you'll have enough to crit most the time just put all points into LK. If you have enough money to buy a sprint every 3 days, use that as 1 accessory and AP comp it every time, the other accessory is either pink ice ring/halloween ring/silver anniv until 70 then switch to golden aniv.

Innerwear is hp GMV, 1 in charm still means low hp and the shield should either be golden lion with darkness or the north wind dx'd imo so no hp there.
Golden Sword is also one of the best weapons you can use for a loooong time especially if refined, pretty much better then all weapons until Sharon (110) and thats only if you get a really good water comp and its myshop ^^. With soil stones Golden sword is a minimum 120% earth attribute.

For low level DX hats, the revo boxes that are being given now has the adventure hat I think its called? 2 slots and can be slotted for dx.
For higher level a 3s custom can be sloted for DX and shouldn't be too expensive.

And for pet, Los Tres Amigos is the best for DX for non-myshop. If you feel you attack fast enough grab an AP pet.

If you have any other questions feel free to whisper me in game (Lashina) or PM me here.

edit - I've yet to find out about the 3rd job and if the double crit animation is still there. But I don't really care about 3rd job skills so I'd just stay 2nd until a disguise came out for 3rd to 2nd.

[fieryshadowcard]

I wouldn't go out of my way for DX gear at low lvls. You won't really be able to get the DX you need. Instead, I'd just slap on an elemental weapon and go nuts. If you can slide some DX gear in, so be it. But, I'd just train the fox normally until lvl 70 (when the DX comps start becoming better).

[Thunderhermit]

Lashina, so would you reccomend using a sword that was not comped for DX?

[Ph0ebe]

If you're planning on using the Pharoh Sword, why not comp it with Soil Stones to get that nice added (min 120) soil attribute. It'll probably pay off more than -4 DX. (min, Thank you nate )

[swiftmage]

Originally Posted by Thunderhermit

Lashina, so would you reccomend using a sword that was not comped for DX?

I used an Ult Bokken with DX until 50 and then a Ult Sword with dx. But Golden sword wasn't out when I was leveling.

Like I said in my previous post, Golden Sword (especially refined) beats all weapons in the game until a 110 myshop sword. Just soil stone all 4 slots.

[Shadowmage29]

Hm... I used a melee fox, you need a lot of health and ap equips, but I would consider getting DA equips at low levels.

[swiftmage]

AP is needed yes, but HP isn't really. Just enough so you're not getting 1-2 shoted by what you train on which an hp gmv does. Later levels you have enough LK to hit the block cap, and just need enough hp to not get ohko'd by lucky crits.

And at low levels Stone strike has such crap accuracy even with 4141 that I trained faster with AP gear.

edit - For 20-35 an Ult shield from Tut can be HP'd and it will be enough. You can also have 2 Golden shields, one of HP and one for Darkness. I'd recomend having an HP shield regardless later on for when you need it (like getting ohko'd by siren song while trying to kill Myconids)

[Shadowmage29]

Really? My accuracy was fine, I only missed once in a while. I guess if you have enough AP or DA equips you'll be fine.

[swiftmage]

SS still missed, while melee didnt. The dps of melees was higher then SS-ing then waiting for the cooldown. Just saying what I did, DA works too, but I had already leveled 3 DA foxes and wanted something different :-)

[Thunderhermit]

So regardless of DX, I should use the lion sword because of it's elemental ability?
Also, I was thinking of using a gun to level up to level 50, since It's very strong at low levels, would it be considered? Or would it be a waste of TM?

[Shadowmage29]

I think that with sixth sense and SS, plus melee equips, you don't need a gun, the only skill that you could consider is gun booster.

[Thunderhermit]

Well, now the question is, is Sixth sense worth it? I know that I should get all LUK skills (buffs) since I won't be using that many skills that often. I'm level 26 now and I must say it's REALLY hard to level up. I was wondering if anyone could power level me to 35? =X

Oh, I bought a 130-something soil atr. golden sword and a 60% darkness atri. shield. Is it possible to 1hit ko monsters that I will be training on with these equips?

[Thunderhermit]

bump? Any suggestions on training to 35 without getting pwned at paradise? >.>

[swiftmage]

Don't get sixth sense, do get gun booster. At 26 like has been said earlier, you can either use a high ap ult bokken with DX, and AP the Ult Beanie with mantis legs. If you can get lucky with the revo boxes the Red Marble Pouch is useful until halloween ring. You can also DX an adventure hat (also revo box) if you're going the AP route to level.

OR, you can get an Ult Knife and Ult Beanie with DA and go Stone Strike stuff. Shield should be an Ult wooden with HP with preferably 50+ DP. With the 4 in sense you have lots of weight so training shouldn't be any problem just attack and pot when you get low like a power type.

Also, finish ALL the desert quests, and the first pharoh boy quests too. And at 30 you can do the multi-vitamin quest in SE forest to get from 30-31.

[Thunderhermit]

Well, now I'm level 37, and I'm tearing through the monsters.. slightly. I have 360? base HP with the health seal making my hp at around 700 ish. I get critted a lot and I was wondering, will that happen until level 50? Or a certain level? I have 23 LUK and I'm near level 40 where I can put on my pink ring. I'm worried about training from 40-50 since there are agro. monsters in path to oops. As for the hat, I completely forgot about comping it with AP. Would comping AP instead of DX, since there are about no hats that can comp dx at 50-100, AP would be a wise choice, correct?

As for skills, how come it's necessary to get gun booster? I have yet to "miss" or "block" more than once when fighting a monster, and since I have fairly high luck, I end up critting the monster twice or three times in order to kill them.

Another thing that tingles my brain is the fact that the elements don't crit/attack all the time. When fighting I usually have 2-3 hits that will be normal, and It just looks awkward when you do a 1.3k crit, and a 400dmg crit next. There's no way around that, right?

As for a GMV, it should be comped HP, and not LUK?
As for the accessories, it should be comped with AP to maximize damage?
For hat's it should be comped AP?
Should I start using L7 as soon as I hit TM 40? The more luck the better right?

[TRlP]

how come u need a darkness atr. golden lion? o.o"