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5 Jan 2008
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#1 | | Anemone
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 67
| Shuriken Fox Questions I'm completely new to this type, so I have a ton of questions. (Thanks for reading, btw)  Anyways, I want to make a shuriken fox...and everywhere I seem to look all I find are gunners. I heard that shurikens are affected by AP, is that true? Also, What build would you consider for a shuriken fox? Lastly, Can shuriken foxes have shields they can equip? Well, Thanks for reading.  I'm sorry about all these questions. x.X | | (Offline)
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5 Jan 2008
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#2 | | unlucky
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,361
| The only AP a SM fox needs to consider is the throwing item's AP - it's just some amount of damage that's added to your SM damage (with boosts from precise pitch).
SM only requires your ammo spot, so you can still equip a shield as long as you're not wearing a gun.
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5 Jan 2008
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#3 | | Loves His Steak
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 534
| Well damage is based on this formula (DA + AP(Throwing Item AP)/10) * Mag Ratio - 1 where the mag ratio is increased each level. Also you can't just throw items you have to use the skill Shuriken Master. DA fuels SM damage. Also besides getting SM you should get Stone Strike, even though it has bad accuracy, its damage is increased by DA too. Also SM never misses. | | (Offline)
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5 Jan 2008
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#4 | | Anemone
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 67
| Thanks for the replies...I think I understand. So...all I should do is all all points into DA? I guess that means I don't need AP then...I guess. Please clarify if I'm wrong! (Tired) xD | | (Offline)
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5 Jan 2008
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#5 | | Loves His Steak
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 534
| Well there's a variety of ways you can build your fox. You could add all points into LK and use DA boosting gear. Or like you said put all into DA. If you have any other doubts you should consider reading some guides in the Sense type guides section. | | (Offline)
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5 Jan 2008
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#6 | | Anemone
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 67
| Thanks for the information then  | | (Offline)
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5 Jan 2008
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#7 | | unlucky
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,361
| SM can miss. Easily, in PvP/GvG, for the standard 1144 fox build. However, in PvM, it is almost a non-issue since revo killed monster dodge rates. SM's hitrate is much higher than SS's, though...
__________________ welcome to the character garage ライトの魔法が最高! OCD for shiny, tanker priest, 1414 MA, 195/192, Anchors
white wind, spell-spam soul master, 1414 MA, 155/140, Vadise
bomberman, mine fiend thief master, 1144 LK, 155/143, AgriasOaks
overgrown turtle, melee/DOT wizard, 4411 HP, 151/149, GigaBowser
growly pup, meta gambler, 4114 HV, 148/133, Gallon
st. ajora, earth/wind/dark witch, 1423 MA, 145/129, AlmaBeoulve
lost dog, unlucky scientist, 4141 LK, 145/136, KevinHutchings character count: 27-ten are mages- down with leveling! grinding sucks!  | | (Offline)
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5 Jan 2008
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#8 | | Nora Big
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 118
| Dont forget the accuracy of SM is defined by DA and not AC.....
And revo hasnt really fixed my SS though..... | | (Offline)
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6 Jan 2008
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#9 | | unlucky
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,361
| No... SM's accuracy is definitely based on AC. DA has nothing to do with its accuracy whatsoever - only its damage. If you want proof, go get shockvibed in PvP and start missing with every single one of your fox attack skills. (If you weren't already missing with everything, that is.)
SS is still the same old inaccurate skill it's been since day one of eTO. Only monster HV has been reduced, but not enough to land hits every time. It is however much easier to get high hitrates now from AC gear/gun booster than it was before revo.
__________________ welcome to the character garage ライトの魔法が最高! OCD for shiny, tanker priest, 1414 MA, 195/192, Anchors
white wind, spell-spam soul master, 1414 MA, 155/140, Vadise
bomberman, mine fiend thief master, 1144 LK, 155/143, AgriasOaks
overgrown turtle, melee/DOT wizard, 4411 HP, 151/149, GigaBowser
growly pup, meta gambler, 4114 HV, 148/133, Gallon
st. ajora, earth/wind/dark witch, 1423 MA, 145/129, AlmaBeoulve
lost dog, unlucky scientist, 4141 LK, 145/136, KevinHutchings character count: 27-ten are mages- down with leveling! grinding sucks!  | | (Offline)
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6 Jan 2008
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#10 | | eat shit and die, ***got
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 970
| What the hell is a 'shuriken fox'? any fox will just get shuriken toss, just play a normal fox and you'll be getting this skill sooner or later. | | (Offline)
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