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Old 17 Jan 2008   #1
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Starting a luck lion - need advice...

I need help deciding on which of the following I should choose:

1. 1144 or 4141?

2. Melee or gunner

Also I was wondering what the Pistol Whip's accuracy was based on...
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Old 17 Jan 2008   #2
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If you're going to be a gunner, really either one works. 1144's got way less power than a 4141, but survivability is FAR FAR greater than a 4141's, and will also get greater power when you get much more high leveled. It's a pain to level a 1144, but in the end, it's the most reliable of all the builds. 4141's probably a fun challenge if you want to do it, but you'll have to scrounge up a lot of lk/charm gears to survive well, and you'll still die a lot.

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Actually, meh, a 1144 pure lk gunner lion would be pretty crappy =x. A 1 in power would mean horrible gun damage without adding AC and since you're adding lk instead...if you go 1144, you might as well go pure lk melee. 4141 pure lk on the other hand, works both ways, both as a gunner (a 4 in power gives decent accuracy...not uber-great, but decent) and a melee (4141 pure lk with lots of DX equipment is probably one of the most fun lion/fox builds rofl). So if you're going gunner, 4141 is the way to go
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Mind you, there are also two other builds (2143 and 3142) which are the two balanced builds, with 3142 leaning more towards power and advanced kiting, and 2143 leaned more towards defense.

For melee...if you're going critastic+landmine, 4141 pure lk. If you want to use stone strike, lucky fist, and landmine (and maybe even shuriken mastery, your choice O_O), I would probably say a 1144 pure lk or pure DA.

However, I think a melee lion might be a little bit hard to get to 3rd job with, mainly because you lack landmine which is a potential damage dealer. You probably will even need shuriken mastery so you can kite the 3rd job monster trials =x

As for melee vs gunner, skill-wise a lion's better off as a gunner because 2nd job skills for a lion are all gun skills (with the exception of pistol whip, the lk-based skill). For melee/throwing lions third job hybrid pretty much compensates for the lack of good skills for that area, but it's a little far off and you'll have to scrounge up every little TM point you can get. Also, pure lk lions going for pistol whip are a pain to level up, especially in TM =x.

Since pistol whip is a physical attack, it's accuracy is based on AC. Thus, higher AC = higher hit rate. Guns/magic are different, as their accuracy is lk.
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1144 LK. We need more melee lions, not gunners!
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If you want to be gunner then go for 4141 or 3142, 1144 LK Gunner will deal puny damage.
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Um, yeah, edited my post. Anyhow, yeah, if you're going to be a pure lk gunner, 4141's probably the best way to go because 1144 has the least damage, and without pumping AC, the worst damage as well =x
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Teh best build: 1414 Melee.
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how can u get 4 in Mage and 1 in sense?
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If you are a coon or mage =P

I think he meant 1441 -_
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Personally I'm a 1144 pure lk GUNNER myself, I have to agree that the damage is kinda low, in fact lvls almost don't really do anything for your damage except for better equips. All your ac equips would come from equips really, I have 59 base ac...and like +130 or so ac I can't really remember...I'm still short a bit of ac from ohkoing a santa bear with power shot...and training at techi4 isn't efficient right about now either since I can't even ps + regular shot ko them...or even ds ko them <_<

Yeah so if you wanted gunner I'd recommend perhaps 3142 or 4141 especially if you don't have good gear and some myshop, I have the ugly horns, swirly glasses, summer cape, and kooh that are myshop for added ac too.
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