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Old 27 Jan 2008   #1
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3rd job skills fox

Hi,

Maybe some simple questions :

Which 3rd job skills for a fox Thief master are worth it to take?

1)Explosive experts (yes i think)

The rest of the skills i am not sure about if they are nessecary.

2)Hide (good for levelling?)
3)Strong mind (what does this skill do?)
4)Sudden attack (In combination with hide is this a good combo for also leveling and is it easy to use? How do I arrange it in the quick slots?)

Can somebody help me please with the above questions?

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Old 27 Jan 2008   #2
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all except strong mind. with strong mind, u become a mage best friend. help reduce the chance of charmwink from working. .
charmwink- mage cannot cast anyspells. priest can heal themselves using med-cure.

hide and sudden attack is good for pvp/gvg
maybe bossing?
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Old 27 Jan 2008   #3
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What is Charmwink and why is it in my 3rd job list if it doesn't suit my skillbuild?

Quickslots: I have 8 availble for primary use otherwise i have to switch. And switching while fighting monsters isn't handy.
slot 1-3 : shuriken / stonestrike / landmine
slot 4-6 : Sixth sense / aura of luck / lucky seven
slot 7-8 : Pink and blue potion

Is it wise when i get explosive expert to place it on slot 1
and use it combined with shuriken and stonestrike

Please give me some feedback how to arrange my quickslots. Which combinations are the best?
Also later in the game when i get Hide and sudden attack as extra skills then where should i put them?

Till so far Thanks for the reply it was very usefull.
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Old 27 Jan 2008   #4
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Explosives can replace Landmine as it is pretty much superior in every way (except MP cost?). As for Hide/Sudden Attackm those are more suited for PvP/GvG/Bossing, so you may want a different set for those.
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Old 27 Jan 2008   #5
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vietboy already explained Charm Wink. It's a 3rd Job Cat's Skill that disables all magic skills (anti magic skill). From what I'm reading from him, Strong Mind is a support skill for mages that will allow them to cast magic even if the Cat casts Charm Wink.

Explosives Expert is great for DA Foxes, and will definitely help you level faster, but the big downfall is the MP consumption which may drain your MP pretty fast. If you're a LK Fox, you may benefit more from Landmine, but the cooltime will be way too slow.

Hide and Sudden Attack is a PvP/GvG strategy skill which allows you to become invisible/transparent but still attack opponents. I don't think it works against bosses.

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I see you have the 3 divided F-key slots. I have 4 divided so it's a bit different.

Once you master Explosives Expert, you won't need either Stone Strike or Shuriken Master. I'm the type that likes to get close, so I would keep Stone Strike. If you're the type that doesn't focus on HP equipments much, then stick with Shuriken Master and keep your distance -- hit and run. The cooltime of Explosives Expert when mastered should be very low, so most likely you won't need to attack with anything else. You could combo Explosives Expert and Landmine (2:1) if you want.

Another strategy is what my friend does, mark the target with either a normal hit, stone strike, or shuriken master -- depending on how you want to fight. That way, no one (other than party members) will take your kill when you plan a Landmine or Explosives Expert.
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Hi,

After what you've both told me it's much clearer now to understand what charmwink is. I am sure to leave this skill alone.

I think i'm gonna use the combo: Shuriken - Explosive Experts
I will also try toi figure out which combo is best. SS - EE is also an option.

I've seen tricksters that marked their enemies while surrounded this could sometimes be very annoying for other players because you can't fluently go on with training and have to walk further to find other monsters to hit.
But if you mark one enemy it's very usefull. All the AoE skills can make it difficult for others because of marking many enemies at the same time ;D

Well i've seenm the pros and cons so thank u for the support. If anyone haves more improvements or ideas that will help a future Thief master fox then please feel free to post your suggestions here.

Thanks for the usefull replies,
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Old 28 Jan 2008   #7
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Don't worry about having not enough skill and pot shortcuts; as a fox you'll eventually learn to micro between sets 1~3 (like I did), as we have WAY too many skills (and we have to use ALL of them to match up to other classes)
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