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Old 13 Feb 2008   #1
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Thumbs down which point i should add for 2143 lion?

which shuld i add?

pure AC?but what will happen if no luck?

pure LK? but did damage will good?

half AC, half LK? what will happen?

pls give advise, i hope give full advise and many people get advise pls.......
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Old 13 Feb 2008   #2
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A 2143 can get around with pure AC and luck gears, with sustainable charm to help survive. Your strength will still be somewhat comparable to a 1144's for most of the time though, and PVP might be somewhat tough if you don't up the lk or charm gears a bit =/. Pure lk for 2143 however, you'll sacrifice tons of gun damage...if you're going pure lk 2143 it's probably better you go as a melee lion instead =/

AC/LK hybrid could work, especially if you go on a ratio of 3 AC/1 LK, so you still get substantial gun damage (not great, but not bad either) and have an increased amount of luck.

I'm actually a 2143 lion myself. It's not a bad build like some people say (1144 is definitely more reliable). It's the borderline of a defensive build that lacks power, while 3142 is the borderline of an offensive build that lacks defense. You're going to want lots of LK gear, but as with any character, luck generally comes from equipment, not base stats. If you can't get great lk equips, however, upping the base luck could help, as long as you still put some points into gun damage.
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Old 17 Feb 2008   #3
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then......3142 is better? cause my lion jz a noob lv 1 only
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1144 is pure hell at early levels, but it's gonna pay off later. 2143's have it a little bit easier and they have the choice of adding some LK into their bonus pts unlike 1144s. Don't start adding LK into bonus pts unlike the mid-late 100s.
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Imo, I think that 2143 is rather a waste. Because you are already sacrifacing so much for the charm, why not just go 1144, that extra 25 AC isnt worth it compared to the HP you'd be recieving on the high end. same with 3142, I think that 4141 is worth more than + 500 base HP from that 2 in charm. I ( a 4141 scientist) think that 25 AC this time is worth more than the tiny HP difference in 4141 and 3142. 4141 in truth will die like a pancake and needs substantial funding to boast and devolop its potential power, if you Don't feel like the risk, Go for 3142, or if you wish to have HP, go 1144.

My two cents from the 3 lions I've made.
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@^ - It's not a straightforward loss, I could say the sme for any middle-variation, like 3142, etc.

Simply put, you're always doubling or halving when going up/dpwn by one point, whether it seems that way or not (1->2->3->4 = x2 for each lvl of it rly, in base points).

Go pure AC, you will lag behind offensive gunners until level 60 or so, but around that point, you will get close, and the damage difference will be a bit more negligable. As for LK, you can get what you need from gears, without having to comp, so just make sure that the gear you get also has a decent amount of LK in it if you can. If you decide to just use MyShop sets, then you won't have to worry about it, since every 'Lion'(Gun) set has a bit of LK in it.

Also, so you know, the difference is really negligable on either side, but enough to make an impact. You can't say that the hp gained isn't a lot, or that the AC gained isn't a lot, because it's enough to make the builds a bit different, indeed.

Lvl 100 Lions, no equipment (All are PURE AC)
4141 - 99 AC 840 HP
3142 - 93 AC 1590 HP
2143 - 87 AC 2340 HP
1144 - 80 AC 3090 HP

As you can see there is a difference of 6(7) AC and 750 HP, between each build. Considering a lvl 70 MyShop set (Since there is no reason to upgrade again until lvl 130), you'd have +47 minimum AC with the Blaster Set, making those puny 6 points very slight.
Whereas you only pulll 240 HP from the pet, and no HP from anything else in the set. At around that level you'd probably still rely on a GMV for HP compounding, until you can get one of the very nice AC compoundable innerwears. The +1k~ HP you'd gain, make the 3142 build at least survivable, while the 4141 build will probably still be 1hkoed if hit (Since monsters can pop 2k~3k around that lvl if they crit or use a skill). Simply put, that's where the 3142 shines, in that it can take a majority of the skills at full HP, however that's about all. Where as with the 2143 build, you can take maybe 2~ hits, so using a skill isn't too much of a problem. When you go 1144 (You'd have 4k~5k HP), you can deal with even a bit more.

In this instance, HP will also delegate your training areas, since if you're 4141/3142, you'll probably be ko'd like crazy in the Machine Room, but can still survive Beaver's Swamp, you might end up staying there instead. Which might be a problem, since although it comes close to Machine Room, it's a lot bigger, and there are always quite a few others there. Parties are also pretty rare, but it's not like Machine Room 'easily' supports 6.
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