Sudden Attack

[LustyDragon]

Is it strong?....weaker than landmine?.. is it strong in pvp/gvg?...i need to know before i get it :O
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thanks in advance

[Wingfeather]

Mastered SA is stronger than landmine, SA lvl 10 is equivilent to mastered landmine.

[LustyDragon]

hmmmm..... i see.... it is stronger than mastered explosive expert when SA is also mastered?

[Wingfeather]

Yeah, mastered SA is stronger than mastered landmine, lawl I should have clarified it.

[Shade~]

Explosives expert isn't landmine. The OP asked for explosives expert in his second post.

For a LK fox, It's more powerfull than Explosives Expert. For a DA fox, Explsives Expert can be slightly more powerfull....like doing 24k with explosives and 21k with sudden attack.

[LustyDragon]

wow 3k difference is alot!

[Shade~]

....not really... <_< It would ohko either way <_<

[Wingfeather]

argh :inf: I keep messing it up! Mastered Explosives Expert is weaker than Mastered Sudden attack...*sigh* my misspellings fail....

3k doesn't seem like a lot, but it can be when ur in PVP...It's like the difference between leaving ur opponent with a sliver of HP, and OHKOing.

[CrimsonCeres]

Funny..My Explosives deal more than my Sudden, both are mastered. So I'm guessing you are a LK fox?

[Wingfeather]

D= Guess it depends on build, and yeah I am a LK fox. Hmm...Explosives are more DA oriented?

[LustyDragon]

Yap, its DA that determines more damage.
here's the formula:
((DA*2) + LK) * Magnification
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[Shade~]

It's exactly like I said:

Originally Posted by Shade~

For a LK fox, It's more powerfull than Explosives Expert. For a DA fox, Explsives Expert can be slightly more powerfull....like doing 24k with explosives and 21k with sudden attack.

Sudden attack is more powerfull if you have about more LK than DA. Exposives Expert is more powerfull if you have alot of DA, compared to LK. That's all.

Formulas are here if you're still not sure:
http://www.mytrickster.net/wiki/inde..._Master_Skills

[Zythus]

I believe SA formula values DA and LK equally.

(DA+LK)*AP

[Shade~]

Originally Posted by Zythus

(DA+LK)*AP

According to this I should deal 130k dmg with 200 ap and 455k dmg with 700 ap.

Please just don't post any false messed up formulas ~_~

Your first statment is true though.

[xFrozen]

Wasn't it... (DA+LK)*16+AP? * Magnification.
Well that's what the wiki says anyways.