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Old 19 Apr 2008   #1
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DA fox build

My fox is currently have a 36/31 4141 fox with all bonus points into DA.
After reading a few guides/threads; I noticed most people do not recommend a 4141 build for a DA fox.

Should the fox be remade as 1144/other or would the extra points from Ap/Ac be more beneficial then charm?
If my fox is in need of remaking, is there any way to make her useful with the current build?
Skills- Mastered stone strike/mastered sixth sense/level 3 shuriken mastery.

Thinking about equipment as well, not sure whether to go DA/Lk for weapon+headgear and WT/HP for shield; or skip compounding to wait for higher level items. Currently wearing- Ult knife(3)/Ult shield(2)/Looking to get a Ult headgear.

Also, although stone strike is a great skill; is it essential to master?
Fsk seems interesting as well; worth getting despite high tm cost?

If it helps, I have 1-2million in total value to work with.

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Old 19 Apr 2008   #2
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SS is a skill you will be using FOREVER, yes it should be mastered.
and in no way should you make your fox 1414. if anything make a 1144 DA fox. most of the time people use 4141 as a pure LK fox.
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Old 19 Apr 2008   #3
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Sorry, made a mistake. Edited :P
Asked about ss as its a prerequisite for armor breaker at level 10 but no skills require it to be mastered; low accuracy range as well. Is the 36% power difference between level 10 and mastered worth mastering for?
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Mastered it, 36% is not an amount to be overlooked.
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Old 19 Apr 2008   #5
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4141 is definitely not something you want to do as a DA Fox.
The extra Charm is beneficial since you'll have to be running up to monsters to kill them with Stone Strike, which should definitely be maxed as it's basically your main attacking skill.
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Old 20 Apr 2008   #6
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D= Scary fox build gone wrong! hehe. Well, I REALLY would recommend a remake. Lvl 30 isn't that far so it's doable. 1144 build OR a 2143 which is nice for the AC since it seems like your just starting out.

I suggest pure DA for all your comps, chances are that you'll OHKO sooner, and thus level faster :). HP/WT is DEFINETLY not needed as you will have plenty of that soon enough .

Also on the note of compounding, if you have a good friend that's high lvld and has 200+ LK, get them to comp for you, it'll be likely that they can comp better than you can.
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Old 20 Apr 2008   #7
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1144 with mastered stone strike it is then :3

For items, should I leave the ult.shield uncompounded? Hoping for the items to double up as equips on my 1441 dragon as well.
No high level friends to help, unfortunately.

Currently sticking with my Ult knife/beanie/shield.
Assuming the next two compounds on the knife are minimums, it would be +7DA. Maybe +1100 hp on shield if its compounded or would luck be better? Choosing between luck/DA on the beanie. Would the status compounded to each item be the same for higher levels?

As far as later game equipment goes, would it be a good idea to use level 20 equipment until level 50. Then swap to the level 50 equipment for level 65 when the time comes? Or would it be better to go from level 20 equipment directly to level 65? Maybe there is another level range of equipment that is even better?

Also, is myshop "really" required to advance within the game? The things for sale look great but are rather pricey.

Edit- Is it worth doing some of the level 40-70 quests? Such as the ones with 25 cycles like monkey/owl (golden necklaces+other/music box+addax necklace+amber piece) respectively. Or would grinding on monsters give more exp than any form of questing?

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use lvl 20 weapon till lvl 50 then move to 65.
and compound everything u need for DA?
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Originally Posted by Phasma View Post
1144 with mastered stone strike it is then :3

For items, should I leave the ult.shield uncompounded? Hoping for the items to double up as equips on my 1441 dragon as well.
No high level friends to help, unfortunately.

Currently sticking with my Ult knife/beanie/shield.
Assuming the next two compounds on the knife are minimums, it would be +7DA. Maybe +1100 hp on shield if its compounded or would luck be better? Choosing between luck/DA on the beanie. Would the status compounded to each item be the same for higher levels?

As far as later game equipment goes, would it be a good idea to use level 20 equipment until level 50. Then swap to the level 50 equipment for level 65 when the time comes? Or would it be better to go from level 20 equipment directly to level 65? Maybe there is another level range of equipment that is even better?

Also, is myshop "really" required to advance within the game? The things for sale look great but are rather pricey.

Edit- Is it worth doing some of the level 40-70 quests? Such as the ones with 25 cycles like monkey/owl (golden necklaces+other/music box+addax necklace+amber piece) respectively. Or would grinding on monsters give more exp than any form of questing?
Luck is mostly used for crits. If you ohko whatever you train on, you probably won't need much luck. HP is always nice, but that choice really narrows down once again on what you train on.
If you can ohko the monster you don't need luck or hp really, but if it takes a few hits and it does lots of damage, HP would probably be better. If it doesn't do a lot of damage you can go for luck.
Honestly though, DA is your main source of

For level 50 equips try getting an Ult. Dagger since they're anywhere from 6~15 DA, with 2~4 open slots. Not to mention they're compoundable for DA. :ls:
Generally you'd want to keep that until you find something better. Like a 16+ DA Dirk.

MyShop isn't needed, really. It's mostly for PvPers because of the crazy stats on all the items. If you get it, you'll level a lot faster and do a lot higher damage, but not having any doesn't make it impossible to get to a high level.

Not sure about quests, as I never did them. The TM quest where you kill those books in Phantom School gives like 180,000 TM exp (if I remember correctly). That's a quest you probably want to do.
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a good dirk would be like a 19+ DA dirk. mine was 27 DA.
a good dagger would be like a ~16 DA dagger.
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4s. is a lie. On an ult dagger, even if it says that, 4s. NEVER happens....EVER. In all my 400+ tomby kills...not one thing had 4s. I had some max stats, but NEVER 4s. I think it's quite impossible...I really want to see a 4s. Q_Q;.

Do quest's! Dear lord I can't emphasize this enough! You are a DA fox...you have the ability to dig, other's don't, so use your digging abilities! Also when you dig you gain exp, and at low lvls it actually does something (hehe).

MyShop is the difference between OHKO and 2+ hits. It will be difficult without myshop at 100+, but not impossible. Cross your fingers and hope for another Pop event!

You don't really need TM quests if you dig, if you do a lot of base lvl quests and don't dig...then yeah go for the Tm quests. They also reward some nice items at times.

Darn you being a Jewelian! Q_Q I would help you comp if u were in Fant! Ah wellz ._.;;;
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I am a Fantasian :3
Was going to try Jewelia but there are many threads dedicated to how laggy it is.

The quests I was curious about was those with 15+ cycles that give horrible items after the 5th cycle and require rare items to complete. Namely the wise owl quests and monkey (gold jewelry) one.

Will definitely buy a DA dirk when the time comes. Are they really worth 3m+ though?

One thing that has been bothering me is pop vs fsk.
Read through a few threads, most say pop is horrible. Some say fsk is decent, others say its worse than horrible. Screenshots with 7k-10k mob damage using fsk make the skill look decent, but would that be considered as a high amount with high-top tier equipment?
Another choice could always be skipping both skills and getting digging ones.
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Digging skills is the smartest way to go with DA fox...to be honest DA foxes suck in my own opinion. Get your fox to lvl 150+ then just use her as a digger. Cuz after that lvl...there's not much else to do with a DA fox...training at tap sucks T_T; You'd need really high DA in order to OHKO.

Pm Gloomeria, I'll help with comps if i can :3
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