Gunner Fox Question

Yoruhime · 5 May 2008

Since all my character slots in Fantasia are full, I decided to make a gunner fox in Jewelia. From what I've read, I heard that it was really hard; especially when it's my first character in Jewelia (so I have no other support from other characters). However, I still want to create a gunner fox because they look hawt. ^^

1) My build right now is 3142; I've made up my mind to change my build graph when I reach 3rd job because I'm more of a pvp-type. However, what build should I change it to? I was thinking of 1144; however won't I lose a lot of AC/Gun dmg?

2) I'm currently Pure AC. However, should I start adding LK so I can be a hybrid AC/LK (since LK would be good in Pvp).

3) Through 1st job -> 3rd job, should I use a gun or a dagger? Stone Strike pisses me off with it's bad accuracy; however I can be a melee fox to make up for it.

4) What should I comp on my equips? I know this depends on the build; but I want something good for a gunner fox (at least to help me survive pass the 3rd job trails xD)

Thanks. I tried reading some other threads but I couldn't exactly find my answer. Some threads only made me confused. x_x *has absolutely no experience with sense class or even gunners*

ShadowBlade · 5 May 2008

1. I would personally go 2143 because of the AC, though it won't matter as much since you're pure right now.

2. Not sure bout that one. I'm more of a PvM than PvP

3. Well, it depends, but im not going to detail bout that one

4. ...I sorta just started myself so i can't answer that.

Sorry about the little info, haven't worked on my gun fox because of my sheep.

Catharsis · 5 May 2008

However, I still want to create a gunner fox because they look hawt. ^^

Damn right they do. 8D

1) My build right now is 3142; I've made up my mind to change my build graph when I reach 3rd job because I'm more of a pvp-type. However, what build should I change it to? I was thinking of 1144; however won't I lose a lot of AC/Gun dmg?

At level 200, a 1 in the power stat will give you around 61AC base. If you think you can get enough equips to compensate for that without stunting your fast grinding (Tech 4 mobs usually needs something around 330+ AC to OHKO with SS), then go for it, as it a 1144 build means greater survivability in PvP (even more if you pile on LK).

2) I'm currently Pure AC. However, should I start adding LK so I can be a hybrid AC/LK (since LK would be good in Pvp).

Personally, I'd rather concentrate on one stat for bonus point distribution, and then modify my equips on a needs-basis. Most gunners I know keep two sets of equips, one for hax AC and another for hax LK. 8D

3) Through 1st job -> 3rd job, should I use a gun or a dagger? Stone Strike pisses me off with it's bad accuracy; however I can be a melee fox to make up for it.

Dagger, IMO. Being a gunner is much more annoying without PS/DS/SS.

4) What should I comp on my equips? I know this depends on the build; but I want something good for a gunner fox (at least to help me survive pass the 3rd job trails xD)

Like I said, keep two sets: all-AC & all-LK. Also keep around some well-comped HP equips for those instances where you have to pull hara-kiri stunts and mix & match with your equip sets.

couldywings · 5 May 2008

Start out as a gunner and for 3rd trails, use a hax attraction % wepon. Without any gun skills, you'll probably die very fast if your using a gun.

Yoruhime · 6 May 2008

Thanks, everyone. If I do stick with guns at the beginning, does that mean I don't need to max Stone Strike?

I've decided to go for Pure AC with comped LK set. As for the build, I still have to decide.

The Prestige · 6 May 2008

I suggest since you said after third job you're changing your build, just do a 1144 LK or DA Fox, and then after you advance, use the Point-Back All to convert to AC, or LK, whichever you decide.

Jpenn · 6 May 2008

1) My build right now is 3142; I've made up my mind to change my build graph when I reach 3rd job because I'm more of a pvp-type. However, what build should I change it to? I was thinking of 1144; however won't I lose a lot of AC/Gun dmg?

whenever you're going to be a hybrid, your sacrificing something.
in this case its AC for LK, or vice versa I prefer LK to AC because I can always debuff. if you're dead set on 1144 2 AC/2 LK is a good compromise

2) I'm currently Pure AC. However, should I start adding LK so I can be a hybrid AC/LK (since LK would be good in Pvp).
yes.

3) Through 1st job -> 3rd job, should I use a gun or a dagger? Stone Strike pisses me off with it's bad accuracy; however I can be a melee fox to make up for it.
dagger, since all of you damage skills until 3rd don't include a gun

4) What should I comp on my equips? I know this depends on the build; but I want something good for a gunner fox (at least to help me survive pass the 3rd job trails xD)
what catharsis said
LK for mages and other sense chars, and AC for buffs (i'm not even going to mention bunnies :/)
I'd also like to add. get a LK shield and cane for when you go melee ( icky + pistol whip ftw?)
and an HV set to dodge people

Catharsis · 6 May 2008

Originally Posted by Yoruhime

Thanks, everyone. If I do stick with guns at the beginning, does that mean I don't need to max Stone Strike?

I've decided to go for Pure AC with comped LK set. As for the build, I still have to decide.

You need Stone Strike at level 10 to get Lucky 7. If you have no intention of using SS as a grinding skill in your early levels, then no need to master it, I suppose.

Yoruhime · 7 May 2008

Thanks for the awesome help! ^^

I've decided to go hybrid; 3 points in AC and 1 point in LK. Not sure if I get the best results but it looks like fun. XD

As for skills.. I will have to continue looking at Kiwi's Pew Pew Guide; and for skill graph, I might change to 2143. xD

geramande · 7 May 2008

My personal suggestion?
Go full melee instead of using stone strike. You can use a soil golden sword until you get to tap 1, then you might need a water or wind weapon to do good damage, but soil sword will still work.

And SF3 is a breeze with a soil sword cause the yeti are soil weak :)

I used a golden sword and dark gshield until tm 165,
then i took spree, double shot, power shot and haven't used a sword since :)

My fox went pure luck until about level 112, then i put all points in AC from then on. My build is 4141 and i dont regret the build. Shes doing really well, though bossing is a little hard with only 8k hp, lol.

LOL@people suggesting build graph resets...am i the only one who don't throw 20$ dollar bills at ntreev? o_O