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Buffalo Power 9 7.69%
Bunny Power 14 11.97%
Dragon Magic 40 34.19%
Sheep Magic 8 6.84%
Fox Sense 4 3.42%
Lion Sense 2 1.71%
Cat Charm 7 5.98%
Racoon Charm 22 18.80%
Everyone 3 2.56%
No One 8 6.84%
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Old 3 Oct 2006   #21
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Yeah sense don't have MD but in a face off with mages, its possible to have a 50-50 chance of killing each other since both can kill the other off in one hit when it comes to 2nd job skills. Its just a matter of who hits who first.
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Old 3 Oct 2006   #22
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Arrow rush literally just wipes out everyone lol, x_x unless you wipe out them first.
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Old 12 Oct 2006   #23
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Charm win hands down.

The charm may do less damage than Power, but they have high DP, HV, and HP to make up for it. Equipped with accuracy weapons and accessories, power types go down pretty quick.

If put against Magic, a good charm build will be able to reflect much of the damage back to the caster. Combined with skunk pouch, mages are like sitting ducks.

The toughest for charm are sense types, but particularly Foxes at the moment. At the same level, charm will be able to dodge most of a foxes attacks (with the evasion up skill) and with a high accuracy weapon and/or accessories, foxes can be taken down fairly easily as well. They are hard to hit because of their Lucky 7 skill.

Charm versus charm just takes too long. 'nuf said.
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Old 12 Oct 2006   #24
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charm vs charm? thats like a 10 hour fight
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Old 12 Oct 2006   #25
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Lol were not that weak Hawtness >.<, but if we have some dx equips we can make it at least a 5 hour fight
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Old 12 Oct 2006   #26
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for 2nd job.. bunny win!!!

20 sec paralyze... kekeke
uppercut! till u all dieeeeeeeeeee...

LOL.. but for first job.. i hate mages...
too overpowered.. Nerf them!!

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Old 12 Oct 2006   #27
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Originally Posted by Ronin
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ummm about what you just said you need a "4" in your main elelment so 1244 wouldnt work at ALL anyways i like raccoons,bunnies,and mages as best pkers and also foxes if they set up right and buy god equips (HP stuff,DA godly stuff) and you know..oh and i found out gun booster helps foxes with accuracy the skill card thing is wrong it doesnt add set damage it adds to AC(heard from a fox), but knowing this i said she was wrong because LK determines skill accuracy so eh
but Stone Strike accuracy is AC and yea Gun Booster adds AC thats why some Fox take it

and best PVP class for me is 1144 HV Cat Hybrid 3rd job (Heroine) so you can take Mutation and Judgement Claw + Sturdy Shield + Shield All + Fan Club + Dodge Master + Stretch + Magic defense buff against mages + Physical Training, 1144 HV Raccoon Hybrid 3rd job can do it too but you wont be able to lvl at 2nd job cuz Card Flinging need 4 Power its totally AP based while High Kick with 1 Power does correct damage its more HV based
Judgement Claw at LVL 151 for 1144 HV Cat Heroine with stuff +50 HV does 21k DMG ^^ and dont forget you have 4 Sense you will have about 25 Basic LK after Mutation, you got some nice skill accuracy and critical rate if you add some LK equipements too
Mutation gives x2.5 basic HV and DP, just imba for Cat :)
also don't forget Skunk Pouch 12sec stun ;D
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Old 12 Oct 2006   #28
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Originally Posted by burpyierz
but Stone Strike accuracy is AC and yea Gun Booster adds AC thats why some Fox take it

and best PVP class for me is 1144 HV Cat Hybrid 3rd job (Heroine) so you can take Mutation and Judgement Claw + Sturdy Shield + Shield All + Fan Club + Dodge Master + Stretch + Magic defense buff against mages + Physical Training, 1144 HV Raccoon Hybrid 3rd job can do it too but you wont be able to lvl at 2nd job cuz Card Flinging need 4 Power its totally AP based while High Kick with 1 Power does correct damage its more HV based
Judgement Claw at LVL 151 for 1144 HV Cat Heroine with stuff +50 HV does 21k DMG ^^ and dont forget you have 4 Sense you will have about 25 Basic LK after Mutation, you got some nice skill accuracy and critical rate if you add some LK equipements too
Mutation gives x2.5 basic HV and DP, just imba for Cat :)
also don't forget Skunk Pouch 12sec stun ;D

yeah i found out a few days after i posted, i tested it out on 2 foxes and the AC won

i might try a 4141(with booster) vs 1144 (with booster) see who can rough it up more
 
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Old 12 Oct 2006   #29
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Originally Posted by Avatar
Magic>Power
Sense>Charm
Power>Sense
Charm>Magic

Its all lies in the skills and the debuffs.

not really, it depeneds on some1's build
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Originally Posted by Ronin
yeah i found out a few days after i posted, i tested it out on 2 foxes and the AC won

i might try a 4141(with booster) vs 1144 (with booster) see who can rough it up more
yea but 1 Charm thats 570HP at LVL 61 o_O
while 4 Charm has 1920HP -__-
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Old 12 Oct 2006   #31
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Bunny + 2nd job. Winnar~ =P
Dash + Uppercut + Counter attack combo ftw.
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Raccoon's because I SAY SO!! No crits! Always Miss! and they are STYLIST!
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Old 13 Oct 2006   #33
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Here are my picks for best:

Charm raccoons due to their insane survivability coming from skills such as Physical Training, Sturdy Shield and their HV, their Skunk Punch and skills such as CF,OP and FH which deal damage at range and stun.

Power buffalos due to their insane range/mob control from skills such as BM, SS, BS and RSC as well as close combat control from skills such as SW+KD. Simplicity and power.

Sense foxes due to their extremely effetive de buff Gloomy Mist which seemingly hits various opponents (can anyone confirm this) stackable with their other debuffs, their wealth in skills such as FB and DE+LMS and the ability to self cloak with HY and attack with SU.

Magic dragon due to their restorative powers such as Treatment while still being able to deal damage from magical attacks such as the infamous AR and the ability to heal various party members at once as well as having good buffs.
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Correct me if im wrong, raccoon naturally kills magic, but with a anti power build, it can kill power & magic.

Ok if a charm can naturally kill magic, what build should I make to kill power?
If youre a charm you can use Anti Physical to deal with a power. Just consider that later a buffalo can really mess you up with their range attacks and Shock Vibe which kills AC and Luck Breaker which kills LK effectively killing your accuracy for both attacks and skills.

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Old 13 Oct 2006   #34
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Charm, hardest to control class but best. Bunnies? 2nd job you say? I say Raccoons third job, Full house. Ranged, if it hits, you're stunned for sure. If that doesn't work, since it is third job, how about second job mutation? 2.5x your base dp and add on those godly equips. Then you do 30% of your damage. All jobs have a weakness, hell even the raccoons. I admit I will have a hard time with Foxes and Lions(Luck/Sticky build) v.v
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A well-played mage will be hard for you coons to deal with with just reflector as well.
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Originally Posted by TMM
A well-played mage will be hard for you coons to deal with with just reflector as well.
Well at high levels with Reflector cutting up 80% of damage really hampers a lot of the mages power. However I believe Light Mages have a sort of advantage since they can deal with any debuff sent their way excepting a direct stun. Still mages usually have high LK or should have high LK to avoid getting stunned easily.

At higher levels what would really hurt a Mage coming from a coon is the fact that their ranged skills deal some really heavy damage in comparison to a mages DP (which is why a 1144 Light Mage can be tough to chew specially if they bring in Rust) CF,OP and FH are all dangerous skills with FH stunning when it hits.

I believe all classes can actually put up a very good fight later jobs and the power>sense>charm>magic>power is just a comparison of which job has certain advantages against what job.

For example at third job Buffalo can hurt Coons because most their attacks are not really entirely physical anymore. Blade Master is wind element. Brandish and River Sea Cutting are water as well as hurt a lot (BM alone does AP*5.0 ranged)

On the other hand a Hydro stealth fox can probably kill a magic type since only Buffalos and Lions can see them and they can get close enough to hit with Surprise, followed by a hard Stone Strike, and probably while the mage scrambles to get soem space hit with Shuriken Master or depending on cool time (hopefully cool time is long) cloak again.

So the scale of which class > class is more of a referral of how a class may have significant advantages over another class. Im sure as heck a 1144 Light Dragon correctly setup can really be a pain for a coon since they can heal themselves and remove de buffs. As well as mitigate damage coming from Reflector.

Also notice some classes have skills that apparently aid others. For example Cats gain a skill which "silences" Magic types. This is non removable by Treatment. Yet foxes gain the ability to remove this de buff. On the other hand it seems Lions can grant the ability to see stealthed foxes (not sure bout this) and buffalos can remove it. So maybe we will be seeing skills that are there to aid other classes for more partying purposes I assume.

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