Best PVP - Page 3

jeffwsm · 15 Oct 2006

cat? lol no one says cat....well cat has really good defence and okay attack rite? so i guess cat is pretty good and if thrid job somes out, "wink" then all the mages are doomed!

IssacFrost · 16 Oct 2006

Originally Posted by DragonMageKen

dragons, dark especially because well... they're strong o_o

Mages have not much to fear until a Raccoon or Cat gain HV 157 raw (Not level)

During this time not much can rival them in sheer terms of damage. But at this point there own magic becomes theyre undoing with an 80% Reflector: Reflector damage is NOT magical. Im not even sure what it is, but it isnt magical evidenced by my tests using it in conjuction with Mag Def Breaker.

Soldiers CAN actually deal with mages!!! OMG!!! IF they bring Luck Breaker and have all four range attacks plus Shockwave and Knock Down!!!
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Originally Posted by jeffwsm

cat? lol no one says cat....well cat has really good defence and okay attack rite? so i guess cat is pretty good and if thrid job somes out, "wink" then all the mages are doomed!

Ah yes Wink. The "silence". Too bad it has "Low chance of success" as well as Foxes gain Strong Mind a "Buff which removes wink effect and gives immunity for a period of time". Its still useful though!

Cats get good when they go DP/HV AP/DP DP/AP or plain ol AP or DP.

k0n · 17 Oct 2006

Muhahaw HG is unreflectable like MS....
Yeah I believe that all jobs are equal.
I just chose Dragons because I like arrows. XD

(No one picked lions....o_o)

IssacFrost · 17 Oct 2006

Originally Posted by k0n

Muhahaw HG is unreflectable like MS....
Yeah I believe that all jobs are equal.
I just chose Dragons because I like arrows. XD

(No one picked lions....o_o)

HG?
MS?
Sounds deadly if they cant be reflected.

Lions are underpowered at the moment. The only viable ones are AC/LK or LK/AC AND GET every single shot technique to combo them up.

Make sure you got good LK gear (I wont recommend AC unless you really need it)
Make sure you have a MD Hat with loads of DP and an Inner Wear with loads of DP and if lucky MD.

AND FINALLY master kiting into Timed Crits. This IS a must. You cannot allow yourself to fall into pressure. You must move go for a Timed Crit spam skills non stop. Lions are never going to tank like other classes due to lack of DP Shield HP grown. They are more of a Sniper class and are much better used in parties rather then solo where they can allow other characters to put pressure and distract the opposition.

They should really get Violent Morphism so they can do mob attacks with it and Random Shot.

Why get FH is not full LK? As primary LK FH will still do considerable damage. As secondary LK make sure you still have good LK equip and max L7, because FH does damage depending on amount of max health (it seems) and this can help kill a weakened foe.

LK lions and AC Lions are good problem is they have least skill options with AC having everything excepting FH and LK having only FH. I prefer having four skills at my disposal then one or three.

k0n · 18 Oct 2006

^ They just need to kite more. (and hack less(only to the hackers))

aznsniper165 · 18 Oct 2006

dragons are best in pvp but if you are like a buffalo killing a mage standing its a chance that buffalos or dragons could win cuz mages usually 2hko buffalos with AR and same with buffalo's BR >.< but if dragons keep running and using AR dragons will win T_T (starts to feel bad making a buffalo like i did once in pvp) T_T

IssacFrost · 19 Oct 2006

Originally Posted by aznsniper165

dragons are best in pvp but if you are like a buffalo killing a mage standing its a chance that buffalos or dragons could win cuz mages usually 2hko buffalos with AR and same with buffalo's BR >.< but if dragons keep running and using AR dragons will win T_T (starts to feel bad making a buffalo like i did once in pvp) T_T

This is true. Magic is made to KILL Power. However for third job a Buffalo specializing in Soldier can be a pain for a Magic type if they know what they are doing. With four ranged attacks three of them being quite insanely powerful and two close melee control attacks as well as Shock Vibe and Luck Breaker a 4123 Buffalo AP/LK can be a bit of a bother. Also one of the melee attacks is the SW+KD combo which has a chance to stun.

A buffalo uses Straight Slay or Blade Master to kill an unsespecting dragon The attack did a 10577 Crit! It would usually be a 7051 Im not sure if this is the Straight Slay or the Blade Master but they are both ranged and they both hit quite hard.

But dont get your hopes to high, heh Magic types have insanely damaging spells (as they should *sagenod*) and Power types have very little in ways of MD.

Enchant · 19 Oct 2006

The reason mages are over powered is because of their extremely low hp you cant exept a mage do to the same damage as other class's with the lowest hp of them all it would be dumb so mages have such power so they wont have to be up close to the enemy to get 1-2hko'd.

flipside · 20 Oct 2006

Originally Posted by Enchant

The reason mages are over powered is because of their extremely low hp you cant exept a mage do to the same damage as other class's with the lowest hp of them all it would be dumb so mages have such power so they wont have to be up close to the enemy to get 1-2hko'd.

Gunners have the lowest HP because they don't use shields, not mages. Mages with 3 to 4 charm have pretty similar HP to everyone else. Their spells are ranged and do decent damage and more importantly, hit very often.

IssacFrost · 24 Oct 2006

Originally Posted by flipside

Gunners have the lowest HP because they don't use shields, not mages. Mages with 3 to 4 charm have pretty similar HP to everyone else. Their spells are ranged and do decent damage and more importantly, hit very often.

Thats what ive been saying. They shoul make wrist guards, shields with eith dp or md but less effective to real shields and compondable with all the stat growth normal dp and md shields have.